Ask HN: What cool development languages/tools changed your career?

Post by petagonoral » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 10:27 PM UTC

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>Lots of things here I don't like, but even the author of the language agrees with me on most of those. Working with Clojure..would be great if you could expand on these. Curious as to what they are/Rich agrees with. I find Clojure lacking when it comes to debuggabililty. In so far as everyone in my medium-ish non trivial codebase seems to find 'clever' solutions that are all but impossible to debug efficiently witho…

Wow, lots of questions. I am exhausted but will do my best to provide an initial answer. > impossible to debug efficiently without a) understanding everything around it and b) printing everything. Debug statements seem to "ruin the cleanliness" (as well as genuinely ruining threading macro flows. I've never once had to add a debug statement to my Clojure code, not sure what you are doing honestly. You can easily debu…

Post by rakanalh » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 10:55 PM UTC

kleiba wrote: post #41

Emacs. I remember finishing college in the late 90s and coming across Emacs (actually, XEmacs back then) for the first time. What a weird editor, how could anyone even want use this voluntarily? Until some coworkers at the place I worked back then showed me some tricks. The touch of enlightenment hasn't stopped ever since and probably never will.

Post by cutler » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 11:35 PM UTC

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cutler wrote: post #8

Django faster than raw PHP or Phalcon. I find that hard to believe. Are we talking PHP7?

I didn't do a benchmark. Phalcon is probably faster than Django (by a few miliseconds) but it is a compiled extension and also doesn't have all the functionality that Django has. Django compared to Laravel (which is now probably the most popular PHP framework) is orders of magnitude faster. This is what I meant with Django being faster that PHP (this statement compares a framework with a programming language - not fa…

Post by leblancfg » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 11:47 PM UTC

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tzhenghao wrote: post #150

Vim. I was first introduced to this text editor back in college. It has super weird navigation rules and editing modes that would easily deter many beginners. 70-80% of my course mates gave up on it and chose something else that worked more like a normal text editor such as Sublime/Atom. It took me several months to develop that muscle memory to increase my productivity. Today, I can log in remotely to my AWS instanc…

I don't think vi has a steep learning curve. There is very little "curve" after the first day. It does have a very awkward first moment (how do i get out of this? esc-colon-wq wtf is this?). Once you realize the difference of command mode, you 're done; it's like photoshop with words.

Post by sundvor » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 11:53 PM UTC

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Agree on this, and am at the same stage myself; C# is a huge transition from e.g. Php (or ColdFusion). Can't help but be amazed at the doors it opens up though - Pluralsight is definitely one of your friends here. Jon Skeet's walkthrough of C# 4, SOLID, the courses on DDD etc - so much to learn! :) MS Dev Essentials will give you a 3 month sub for free, if you didn't have that already.

C# is a really nice language. I'm hoping that the new .NET Core work will expand its reach beyond mainly Windows and get it popular on other platforms. Otherwise my book isn't going to do very well. :)