A 40-50" (diagonal) "whiteboard" is still very small. I have a 4'x10' whiteboard right behind me, and a 6'x4' to my immediate right, and I'm always running out of room.
What about 55"? That's what the Jamboard is...
Jamboard – The whiteboard reimagined for collaboration in the cloud
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Re: Jamboard – The whiteboard reimagined for collaboration in the cloud
#22If my old employer, SMART, hadn't been acquired by Foxconn, I imagine its stock would have plummeted on this news.
Man, I use these SMART boards at work (teacher) and is it just me or the software sucks (especially the usb dongle with the software in it)
Every "interactive whiteboard" (brand and design) I've ever used sucks.
The best setup I've used so far is a standard whiteboard coupled with a projector (ideally with a second board to the side). It needs very regular cleaning to prevent a blurry display, but being able to write normally (being able to see what you're writing with zero lag) is a huge benefit.
If you really need at-board interactivity (as opposed to keyboard+mouse at the PC, or wirelessly, or casting from a tablet, or...) then Epson do a projector with an IR "pen" that works with any old whiteboard.
Re: Jamboard – The whiteboard reimagined for collaboration in the cloud
#23I can't be sure, but it seems like they are just going to release a big Wacom tablet and add real-time collaboration for the price of a 2013 SMART car. That isn't a fair comparison, as it is unlikely corporations will be comparing a fleet of used smart cars to collaboration workstations in their budget. WTF is the usecase for this? 10-11k for people to draw on the same canvas in different locations? I think it is act…
A big issue too is... how long will this be supported? When you migrate away from Google Apps, what is your $6,000 touchscreen good for? Is it open?
Re: Jamboard – The whiteboard reimagined for collaboration in the cloud
#24I can't be sure, but it seems like they are just going to release a big Wacom tablet and add real-time collaboration for the price of a 2013 SMART car. That isn't a fair comparison, as it is unlikely corporations will be comparing a fleet of used smart cars to collaboration workstations in their budget. WTF is the usecase for this? 10-11k for people to draw on the same canvas in different locations? I think it is act…
so you are saying there's a market for a 4k 55" collaborative device that recognizes pen, multi-touch, has a camera and hopefully software that does not suck and integrates with Hangouts / Skype for Business at a lower pricepoint?
Seriously though...I have yet to see the Surface Hub used anywhere apart from MS offices.
Re: Jamboard – The whiteboard reimagined for collaboration in the cloud
#25We've been researching solutions in this space for quite a while. We have 6x 80" smartboards and have tried everything from Lync to Realtimeboard. While some solutions work better than others, no one has solved a fundamental problem... When you try to collaborate in real time with a remote person - all the human communication cues are lost. Collaboration is a dynamic and fluid process. We subconsciously read each oth…
Is there any solution to this other than in-depth VR?
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#26This is basically a Surface Hub, except it's later to market. Whatever, it's not like my remote team will ever buy either of them.
And cheaper (“under $6,000” vs. $8,999). Might cause the Surface Hub’s price to go down if we’re lucky.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you looked at The Surface Hub?
Other than tighter integration with skype for business, how does it solve some of the issues I laid out above? I don't think our IT team got these specific devices in to test. The 20K for the 80" is a dealbreaker compared to the smartboards. Curious if there's something special about them compared to a smartboard on a win10 box?
The Surface Hub is the successor to Perceptive Pixel [0] which has some very smart people working on what makes multitouch work. Hardware-wise it's a capacitive screen vs. almost all other big touchable screens that use other technologies that are inferior.
It will do nothing to address your concerns about the absence of body language, gaze direction, facial expressions, etc. It's a trade-off, you give up some of the bandwidth of meeting face-to-face for the benefit of including people not physically present (or expense of bringing remote people local). The technology used to bring in remote people can also add value by capturing/saving work more automatically and seamlessly than, say, someone stepping back and snapping a photo of a whiteboard.
Some of the bandwidth loss can be compensated for by examining your processes, identifying what you value, and formalizing the valued communication in another form. Often the other form is saying things out loud; instead of looking for head nods, you ask people to say "yes" or "no." The technology can aid in this by providing other channels like up and down votes or "question" votes in place of confused looks (that are all to easy to overlook when you're in person anyway).
Re: Jamboard – The whiteboard reimagined for collaboration in the cloud
#28I can't be sure, but it seems like they are just going to release a big Wacom tablet and add real-time collaboration for the price of a 2013 SMART car. That isn't a fair comparison, as it is unlikely corporations will be comparing a fleet of used smart cars to collaboration workstations in their budget. WTF is the usecase for this? 10-11k for people to draw on the same canvas in different locations? I think it is act…
so you are saying there's a market for a 4k 55" collaborative device that recognizes pen, multi-touch, has a camera and hopefully software that does not suck and integrates with Hangouts / Skype for Business at a lower pricepoint? Seriously though...I have yet to see the Surface Hub used anywhere apart from MS offices.
I've seen the Surface Hub's predecessor, Perceptive Pixel, at Harvard once. I think that one was purchased. CS50 also has the 80" model that was "loaned" by Microsoft.
I wonder if the "under $6,000" price for the Jamboard includes the wheeled stand. The 55" Hub's rolling stand alone is ~$2,350.
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#29This is literally just a picture and a vague blurb. It is kind of unusual but in this specific case you may be better off with the Engadget article than the official site: https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/25/google-jamboard-digital-... Seems like it will cost "under" $6K. But since they're using $6K as their pinned price, I'm guessing over $5K.
Here's the Google blog post detailing the product: https://www.blog.google/products/g-suite/jamboard-whiteboard...
Thanks, we've updated the link from https://gsuite.google.com/jamboard/.
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#30A product Google will kill in a few months