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Show HN: Killing Procrastination by Making Everything Fit

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Re: Show HN: Killing Procrastination by Making Everything Fit

#12
A list is made. Some items are starred. Other items might be double starred, or marked in different ways. An estimate is made for the time each item will take. Eventually, items get crossed off, or 'commented out'.

I do this all in a text file. It works great. I used to delete completed items, but I found it robbed me of a sense of accomplishment I kinda value. If I don't finish the list (which happens often), at least I know what I didn't do, and have a good idea why I decided I didn't feel like it.

Of course, now I have a folder with 12 mostly-completed lists, the last items on which I keep dodging. There are no perfect answers in the continuing battle with one's self. Honestly, this app looks pretty cool, and if I was younger and more optimistic, I'd probably give it a go. I just feel like I know myself well enough (or have accepted my many faults enough) at this point that I'm pretty sure it wouldn't get me to do much more than I already am.

Re: Show HN: Killing Procrastination by Making Everything Fit

#13
This looks interesting, but how does it deal with tasks that don't have an expected finish time?

Eg, what i like about Pomodoro is that i am not planning anything more. I simply chug away at my (hopefully micro optimized) task list, and take breaks when the Pomodoro says so.

This looks nifty, but i have no clue how long most of my tasks are going to take. Limiting them to 25m or w/e seems like it would induce more stress and uncertainty.

I assume i have the product slightly wrong. Thoughts?

Re: Show HN: Killing Procrastination by Making Everything Fit

#14
This is great idea, just because it lets your prioritize what you actually want to do with your time and manages conflicts explicitly.

I think you may have picked the wrong title. I am sure people are going to be confused and wonder what this has to do with procrastination, and it it really is the best tool against that and how it compares with other tools etc.

I think if you changed the title to "explicitly manage constraints", or "trade-off calendar for your time", you might get more takers.

Re: Show HN: Killing Procrastination by Making Everything Fit

#15

I don't see how this differs from a normal calender in terms of killing procrastination? The problem I have is not that I haven't planned correctly, it's that I do not follow my plan.

Interesting way to manage time (irrespective of the fact that this will not solve procrastination)

Would be better in the form of browser extension or desktop app for better tracking time.

Re: Show HN: Killing Procrastination by Making Everything Fit

#16

A list is made. Some items are starred. Other items might be double starred, or marked in different ways. An estimate is made for the time each item will take. Eventually, items get crossed off, or 'commented out'. I do this all in a text file. It works great. I used to delete completed items, but I found it robbed me of a sense of accomplishment I kinda value. If I don't finish the list (which happens often), at lea…

  > I used to delete completed items, but I found it robbed me
  > of a sense of accomplishment I kinda value.
This contains the key to ending procrastination -- crafting one's psychological relationship to the intended task, and also to the pastimes one uses to procrastinate. You can't fit work that in an app, though. It's more like internal marketing, management, or propaganda than scheduling.

  > There are no perfect answers in the continuing battle with one's self. 
You can always strive to do better, though.

Re: Show HN: Killing Procrastination by Making Everything Fit

#17
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's integrated time tracking. If you don't follow through in a day (say you only did 30 minutes of an hour allocated), you can reschedule very easily and down to the minute.

If I reschedule all the time, what's the point of having the calendar? =)

Not only that, but I find scheduling too much kills the pleasure of doing things on a whim as well as feeding a growing angst when you keep on postponing stuff.

Maybe we should stop trying to live in the future so desperately and just enjoy the present moment.

[...] and then I was in time again, hearing the watch. It was Grandfather’s and when Father gave it to me he said I give you the mausoleum of all hope and desire; it’s rather excruciatingly apt that you will use it to gain the reducto absurdum of all human experience which can fit your individual needs no better than it fitted his or his father’s. I give it to you not that you may remember time, but that you might forget it now and then for a moment and not spend all of your breath trying to conquer it.

— W. Faulkner

Re: Show HN: Killing Procrastination by Making Everything Fit

#18

I don't see how this differs from a normal calender in terms of killing procrastination? The problem I have is not that I haven't planned correctly, it's that I do not follow my plan.

> I haven't planned correctly, it's that I do not follow my plan.

I use Any.do (which I like the UX off a great deal) with Reminders for this, at first it felt like it was nagging the hell out of me since I was snoozing so much stuff but then a strange thing happened, I stopped snoozing stuff and started doing it so I could kill the task if it was a quick task.

On the UX side something like that has to be so effortless for me to use (ymmv on what effortless is) that it becomes a habit otherwise I just forget to enter stuff as it occurs to me.

What I'd really like is an unobtrusive bluetooth like headset with natural language processing (think miniaturized persistent Alexa) that didn't need to sync through my phone but could sync with it periodically.

"Hal, task: remind me to buy cat litter, tomorrow morning, 10am, remind me again at 1pm"

"Hal, remind me, Monday morning, 10am, task: check I answered email from FooClient"

Then at 10am Monday morning audibly "You have a task: check you answered email from FooClient" "I've done that"

"Hal: Snooze all notifications for 2 hours" (for when you don't want to be disturbed) and have it cue up anything in that period.

"Hal: while I was snoozing, you missed the following tasks" etc.

Most of the pain of using a phone for task management is that typing stuff in is still annoying, on the technology side we are pretty much in that direction already I've even considered buying an Echo and seeing how far I can get with it's API.

Re: Show HN: Killing Procrastination by Making Everything Fit

#19

I don't see how this differs from a normal calender in terms of killing procrastination? The problem I have is not that I haven't planned correctly, it's that I do not follow my plan.

There's integrated time tracking. If you don't follow through in a day (say you only did 30 minutes of an hour allocated), you can reschedule very easily and down to the minute.

Procrastination is a psychological problem, not a planning problem. Seems like you solve a problem in a wrong way, or you promote your product in a wrong direction. You can say it is a combination of kanban, time tracker, project management or even habitica...blahblahblah, but it is just combination of functions not solving any procrastination problem at all.

Re: Show HN: Killing Procrastination by Making Everything Fit

#20
I really love the idea. I use pomodoro timing for my work, but I always have to decide on the spot what I want to do for that 25 minutes. If I'm working on one task, that's easy, but after I'm at a good stopping point with that task it's hard. I like the idea of mindfully making the todo list every day or week.

Three pieces of feedback:

1) I have to click "done" after editing anything and if I forget and click on something else it undoes my edit. I'd prefer edits to be saved automatically.

2) I think the defaults should be 6 hours or 8 hours available for each weekday.

3) It wasn't immediately clear to me how to proceed after planning. I edited the url to go back to the root and then saw the timing functionality. Maybe something that helps first time users find the "Today" button top-left.

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