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Welcome to Germany. On a more serious note: No, i am not. Only in my work life.
I'm from Germany too and as far as I can tell this isn't the truth for every company here. When I find clients/employers behave like that, I warn them and then I quit. This is what everyone should do. If you accept such horrendous conditions it's your fault people begin to think this is "normal".
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What if you accidentally revealed a private key on the screen during the screenshot? Are you willing to forfeit 10 minutes of time to keep your SSH or whatever else uncompromised? Or are you going to trust Upwork and your client to not somehow leak it, even accidentally?
Or what if you view personal information? Under data protection law, would that could as a data breech?
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Maybe cultural differences. I know a lot of people in Germany who do, and refuse the siren call of throwing Marx' books down in their bosses' offices. Then again, workers here also enjoy a lot more protections than in other countries, so maybe it's the lack of feeling at odds with the company so much.
A footnote: Germany is notorious for its policy of keeping workers' wages down. This obviously doesn't apply to programmers, but it's worth at least adding parenthetically to your statement that workers "enjoy a lot more protections than in other countries".
Really? This is the first time i've ever heard that. In fact just recently minimum wages have been raised here and many shops complained bitterly.
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I'm from Germany too and as far as I can tell this isn't the truth for every company here. When I find clients/employers behave like that, I warn them and then I quit. This is what everyone should do. If you accept such horrendous conditions it's your fault people begin to think this is "normal".
You're quite privileged.
But, I lived in these conditions the past. One day I said to myself, I don't want this anymore, and quit.
What is preventing you to change your life for the better? :)
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You're quite privileged.
Maybe, I don't know. But, I lived in these conditions the past. One day I said to myself, I don't want this anymore, and quit. What is preventing you to change your life for the better? :)
So i guess the only thing keeping me from making things even better than they already are is finding technical clients with Perl work that pay on the level of ~100$/h.
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A footnote: Germany is notorious for its policy of keeping workers' wages down. This obviously doesn't apply to programmers, but it's worth at least adding parenthetically to your statement that workers "enjoy a lot more protections than in other countries".
> Germany is notorious for its policy of keeping workers' wages down. Really? This is the first time i've ever heard that. In fact just recently minimum wages have been raised here and many shops complained bitterly.
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Maybe, I don't know. But, I lived in these conditions the past. One day I said to myself, I don't want this anymore, and quit. What is preventing you to change your life for the better? :)
As i said in my post, i don't mind having upwork's program send 6 screenshots an hour from my work machine while i'm working, because it keeps me from being hassled by nontechnical clients who're otherwise fine people to work with. So i guess the only thing keeping me from making things even better than they already are is finding technical clients with Perl work that pay on the level of ~100$/h.
I had problems with non-technical clients as well. What helped me was calling them 2-5 times a week, depending on how insecure they feel.
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As i said in my post, i don't mind having upwork's program send 6 screenshots an hour from my work machine while i'm working, because it keeps me from being hassled by nontechnical clients who're otherwise fine people to work with. So i guess the only thing keeping me from making things even better than they already are is finding technical clients with Perl work that pay on the level of ~100$/h.
Hm okay, if it works for you. It's just sad that it perpetuates the idea that this kind of stuff is okay. I had problems with non-technical clients as well. What helped me was calling them 2-5 times a week, depending on how insecure they feel.
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Hm okay, if it works for you. It's just sad that it perpetuates the idea that this kind of stuff is okay. I had problems with non-technical clients as well. What helped me was calling them 2-5 times a week, depending on how insecure they feel.
That would be utterly horrible to me and i couldn't stand it at all.
It was horrible to me, too :D
I just noticed that people were more douchy on chat/email than on phone, so I started to call them when they started to rage online, haha.
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That's what you consult an actual lawyer for. In my country, if they'd interfered with existing business relationships causing expected revenues to be lost, they'd made potentially libellous statements that caused a major source of expected future revenues to permanently block access, there was ample written evidence that they did these things deliberately and that actual losses were and would continue to result, and…
Well, maybe I'm just jaded by a recent experience with a former business partner who was an attorney himself. They guy had provably stolen over $100K from the company and our attorney basically charged us $20K to let him go. It was a valuable lesson to me to never go into business with an attorney again.
The real problem is that there is no efficient system to weed out the crooks. There are no efficient pressure against them. Psychopats are king.