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I have seen this before. Some people will only take a job if they KNOW how to do the job. Others will take a job, and are confident they can learn it along the way. It might have more to do with that confidence than being poor.
If you don't have a safety net you'll quickly become risk averse.
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There may be some interplay with Impostor Syndrome, but IMO what is being discussed here is a different thing, for which there may be a more specific name... but if so I'm unaware of it. Impostor syndrome is pretty much universal (insomuch as it crosses class/economy boundaries) whereas what has been mentioned here is a sort of anti-entitlement very specific to people who grew up poor. People in this situation are of…
It sounds a little like learned helplessness ... having spent some time in the UK I have noticed this unquestioning deference to "ones betters" and I wonder how it comes about. How is this trait acquired?
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One distinction that I like to make is that in my own life, I've definitely been poor, but I've never been in poverty. I've been a student and I've been unemployed almost without money to even get food occasionally, but I've always been in a position where I could ask my (middle-class) mother for a bit of cash to tide me over (or even move back 'home' for a while. I have never had to ask, but that option/safety net h…
I grew up poor, and after my first bout of college, I only had $400 to my name, nowhere to go, no job, and 28 days until rent was due. I spent that month freezing in an empty apartment eating potatoes with soy sauce on them. And then may landlord wants to play "this is a stupid college kid" and starts claiming that I must keep paying rent until I can find a new lessee (which I didn't.) Nevermind that I always payed m…
One benefit is that I was an overweight child, being too poor to eat properly brought me to a "perfect" BMI for my age.
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If you don't have a safety net you'll quickly become risk averse.
On the flip side if you don't have a lot to lose you might as well take risks.
And nobody has nothing to lose - I mean even poor people have a flat - but risking to lose the roof over your head would be plain stupid.
End of story - if you know papa and mama will transfer some cash if you are in need - then taking risks is easy.
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There may be some interplay with Impostor Syndrome, but IMO what is being discussed here is a different thing, for which there may be a more specific name... but if so I'm unaware of it. Impostor syndrome is pretty much universal (insomuch as it crosses class/economy boundaries) whereas what has been mentioned here is a sort of anti-entitlement very specific to people who grew up poor. People in this situation are of…
It sounds a little like learned helplessness ... having spent some time in the UK I have noticed this unquestioning deference to "ones betters" and I wonder how it comes about. How is this trait acquired?
It is acquired socially. The UK has a formalised class system dating back to the "divine right of kings". The "ruling elite" are rather literal as the membership of the upper house (House of Lords) is limited to hereditary peerage.
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Speaking as a relatively new parent, what your father did is unfathomable to me. It sounds like you got great skills, but need to be connected to someone who just doesn't take advantage of them. Were you working on Kerbal Space Program? Those devs surely got a raw deal too. Sadly the world is full of people caring only for themselves. But there are exceptions, and hopefully it'll be your turn to come across some of t…
Thanks. Yes, I've a couple projects. A couple are more popular than others. My own stuff has about two million total users. But for about the last four months, I've been working exclusively on creating some (combinatorial) design theory algorithms.
(Not that I'm massively successful myself or anything. In fact, I'm currently unemployed and seeking .net roles, after redundancy; facing difficulties with this as I have only just under 1y of .net xp even as I've done development for 20. Refreshing / learning new skills on SOLID, DDD, CQRS, EventSourcing, etc, and trying to keep chin up. I have faith and refuse to go back to my old tools that are just about dead anyway, even though there's the odd contract coming up. Love C# and .net.)
"cultural fit" is a huge contributor to this limited mobility
Honestly, I think this explains quite a bit. I grew up fairly poor (single income household in Appalachia). I had to train myself out of a lot of speech patterns / mannerisms that don't fly in other parts of America. It's unfortunate, but the stereotype of inbred white trash is still alive and strong when most people hear Appalachian drawls. They hear the way we talk and immediately think we're ignorant. It's an open…
I worked on Wall St for over a decade. I regularly walked into the corner store (Duane Reade) in a high-end suit, $300 Thomas Pink shirt, cuff-links, a tie, and shiny shoes. I also had the mannerisms i was expected to take on having gone to an Ivy League undergrad.
Still on at least 5 or 6 occasions, individuals would walk up to me and ask "oh which aisle has the detergent" as if being of Indian origin automatically made me the store keeper. They saw right through my impeccable outfit, ignored it all, and saw "the Indian store-keeper guy."