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Smartwatch sales are tanking

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Re: Smartwatch sales are tanking

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Man, I didn't expect Pebble to be down so much. My wife and I have 5 of them between us. The always-on screen and a week of battery life make them much more attractive than most other smartwatches.

Friend of mine is pissed because she backed their most recent KS. The Pebbles from that are showing up in US retail outlets.

The KS backers have nothing delivered.

Re: Smartwatch sales are tanking

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The biggest issue for me with the "smartwatch" is that they don't have feature parody with dumb watches. I've had many watches in the past and the battery lasts for years. I can also turn my wrist and see the time instantly. Who would have thought? What I get now is some piece of crap that needs to be charged every night. So I basically have no features while I'm sleeping. I can't just wake up in the middle of the ni…

Have you seen the Mondaine Helvetica? https://www.mondaine.com/watches/mondaine-helvetica/helvetic... Traditional look, smart features, and 2-year battery life.

Smart features? Plural? Not really. It's a basic watch with one extra red hand that can track your steps for the day; that's it. Very nice watch, however; I love Mondaine's design. But let's not pretend this is at all comparable to Apple Watch.

Re: Smartwatch sales are tanking

#83

Seems like they will stay a niche until they can replace phones entirely, and perhaps even past then. A lot of people just don't like having something strapped to their wrist and/or want a large screen. As a watch guy (and most watch people are guys) the first smart watch I've been excited about is the upcoming gear S3: http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/gear-s3/ Because it looks like a real watch and has the rotat…

Anyone else remember graffiti input on PalmOS[1]? It strikes me that even a low resolution digitiser (32x32, maybe less?) would still resolve those characters. That gets you SMS entry and contact search, maybe?

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_(Palm_OS)

Re: Smartwatch sales are tanking

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post #42

The biggest issue for me with the "smartwatch" is that they don't have feature parody with dumb watches. I've had many watches in the past and the battery lasts for years. I can also turn my wrist and see the time instantly. Who would have thought? What I get now is some piece of crap that needs to be charged every night. So I basically have no features while I'm sleeping. I can't just wake up in the middle of the ni…

"real" watches, i.e. an automatic, never need charging. even if you let it sit for days until the spring unwinds, you just put it on, shake your wrist, and it starts ticking again.

my casio digitals are solar. life is too short to replace or charge watch batteries. i mean, this problem was solved nearly a century ago.

the cheapest automatics are made by seiko and are barely $50. solars are cheaper.

i'll never buy a smartwatch until they're one or the other. watches should not have batteries or any other design feature that renders them useless on purpose.

Re: Smartwatch sales are tanking

#85
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When I'm not wearing my mechanical Seiko, I wear a Garmin GPS for running. Always-on is big for me. Are there any that have that feature these days?

Always-on... screen? Pebbles have that. They don't have GPS built-in though so you'll have to bring your phone with you. You can control the running apps through the watch interface at least.

Note that there are 3rd party solutions for the Pebble (straps that use their extension/accessory pins to add GPS and a bit more juice) and that Pebble plans to release the Pebble Core in January - a tiny wearable Android device with GPS included.

So you should be able to go out with your Pebble + SomethingElse and leave the phone at home, if we're talking GPS or tracking.

Disclaimer: I own a Pebble Time, I backed the Pebble Time 2 and the Pebble Core.

Re: Smartwatch sales are tanking

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Man, I didn't expect Pebble to be down so much. My wife and I have 5 of them between us. The always-on screen and a week of battery life make them much more attractive than most other smartwatches.

The Pebble 2 Kickstarter was early in the summer and didn't start shipping until October. Since the graph mentions shipped units, I'm not surprised they're down. Anyone who was interested in getting a Pebble either pledged to the Kickstarter or waited for the 2 to come out in stores.

Annoyingly, the folks who waited for the store version will be getting theirs before the Kickstarter backers do. The community took a big hit when they prioritized WalMart over the folks who helped them get off the ground. Pebble's community has always been a strong point for the company - not sure if that'll keep being true, so their blip might turn into a bigger slide.

Disclaimer: Backer of Pebble 2 who won't be getting his watch until at least mid-November.

Re: Smartwatch sales are tanking

#87
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I suspect people /want/ a smart watch so they can feel like Dick Tracy and Roger Smith (Anime, Big O). The reality is that the smart watch is little more than a smaller screen attached by wireless personal area network to the real computer; which has a better (bigger, brighter, larger buttons) and more responsive screen. I stopped wearing a normal watch once I had a decent pocket chronometer (a comparatively primitiv…

Mainly because you feel like an utter prat walking down the street talking to your wrist. Had an original G Watch and truly felt like the biggest c k saying "Ok Google, remind me to do XYZ". It had 3 uses: 1) seeing who's ringing and dismissing calls in meetings where you left the ringtone on 2) being able to read full message threads through the notifications without having to "read" them in the apps (sneaky for Mes…

yeah what possessed them to make people say "ok Google". I might as well say, "I'm an idiot". Was it not possible to make it start listening for commands when you activate it/turn wrist etc.

Re: Smartwatch sales are tanking

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Misleading title. You can't compare sales from the Apple Watch's initial release with the months leading up to a new model. If you take Apple out of the picture sales stay pretty steady. Samsung grows a little, Garmin grows a lot. Far from "tanking". Smartwatches will continue to sell steadily (to early adopters and developers) until the tech catches up. The new Apple Watch is already a huge improvement over the last…

Yep - this is a mistake people when evalutating gadget sales in general.

The timeframe has to be set to the product lifecycle (i.e. t=0 is the launch) to make comparisons or determine trends. YoY is skewed heavily by the product launches.

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