Wasn't the 432 Hz thing started by Lyndon Larouche? http://www.schillerinstitute.org/music/revolution.html
He basically popularized it, and I was surprised someone wrote an entire article on this without mentioning that fact.
The “432 Hz vs. 440 Hz” conspiracy theory
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#142I spent three months in meditation retreat some years ago. I'd never heard of this phenomenon. At some point, I started hearing various tones that weren't coming from outside. They eventually became quite loud. I noticed three tones in particular, and wrote some code to pin down their frequencies.
I discovered that they were C, E, and G, where the A would have been 432 Hz (or very close to it; certainly much closer than to 440). Some internet searching turned up this phenomenon. Apparently ancient Hindus and Buddhists heard similar tones during meditation, and related them to various points in the body.
Maybe there is something to the notion that it's related to our neurology or physiology in some way.
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#143There's also the argument that 432 Hz is more in tune with our planet, see "Cosmic Octave" by Hans Cousto.
You shouldn't have been modded down since the origins of this idea come directly from Kepler's Harmony of the Spheres.
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#144> orchestras specializing in older music may sometimes tune in the tuning close to the one for which the piece was originally written, which may range from 415 Hz to 470 Hz). I can say as someone who performs a lot of Baroque music (c. 1600 - 1750) that there is a relatively common standard of A=415 for music of this period. A=415 is often referred to as "Baroque pitch." This mainly applies to ensembles that speciali…
(Finally something I can contribute to, on HN) My father plays in a baroque orchestra (the Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra), and I know that when they play a repertory, e.g. Dieterich Buxtehude, the orchestra tunes to 465 meantone.
I suspect the temperament makes a dramatically larger difference than shifting every note sharper by a bit less than (95.7% on a log scale) a semitone compared to A440.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
"if you take a track and play it a little bit faster or slower it still sounds great or awful as at the default speed in most cases." Yup. Another example: in most of the world (where the television system is PAL or SECAM) movies are played on TV or released on DVD at 25 frame per second. But to achieve this frame rate, they take the theatrical film release at 24 fps and speed the video and audio up by 25/24th (4.17%…
Another example is the kind of dastardly television trick of increasing the speed of a television program to shorten it and thus increase the amount of advertising space that can be run alongside the program. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6i1VVikRu0 This video claims that TBS is currently increasing the speed of Seinfeld episodes a whopping 9%, reducing a 25 minute episode to some 22.5 minutes.
USA network used to do this.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a Brit, my reaction to a Frenchman is one of disgust as I reach for my insults. Yet there are few countries I would turn to so quickly in the search for a sane and good friend. Perhaps it is easiest to say: Where the USA has Russia, we have France. Where the USA has Canada, we have France.
Does it work the other way? I'm Canadian and a huge part of our culture is defined by the ways we are unlike Americans. Can't imagine Anglo-French culture works quite like that.
US-Canada also has that element of small-versus-large - the US looms (I imagine) much larger in the Canadian consciousness than Canada does in the American one, just because the US isn't so defined by that one neighbor.
Maybe more like Portugal-Spain? Hard to find examples like that where there haven't been any wars in a couple hundred years, and there's also that linguistic/cultural similarity.
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Star Wars is nonsense too but it makes people happy. Nonsense spreads not just because of apathy.
You leave my space wizards out of this!
And you actually pointed out why those two things are different.
We understand Star Wars is space wizards. New-agers do not understand that their beliefs are mostly bogus.
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#148A second is also pretty close to the time between adult heartbeats at rest. There is some evidence that the human heart rate can quicken or slow in accordance with rhythm in music. Wonder if that changes anyone's argument in here.
A 1% error in approximating a second by a heartbeat will cause an approx 4hz error in the frequency.
Here's a chart of the distribution of heartrates found in random middle-aged people measured over 24hours: https://d1ieb9vw5zjdt6.cloudfront.net/content/europace/7/2/1...
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The second is defined as the time it takes for two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the 133 Ce atom to make 9,192,631,770 transitions. How is that not special?
Because that definition was grandfathered in such that it matched the previous definition of a second up to the previously specified precision. You've just moved the arbitrary part to the number 9,192,631,770. The same thing was done for the meter (defined such that the speed of light is precisely 299,792,458 m/s), ampere (current which produces 2 × 10−7 N/m of force between two parallel conductors). There's plans to…
I suspect the poster's tongue was firmly in his or her cheek.
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#150Funny conspiracy theory but I have to say that following Occam's razor I would have reach the conclusion that it was indeed Goebbels who was behind it all as the presumably correct historical explanation is quite convoluted. On the other hand for the Goebbels theory to be plausible I only need to evaluate: Did Goebbels have the power to influence this all across Europe? Yes he definitely had the power to do so. Actua…
Hitler himself was very intolerant of any of this mysticism business. All these activities and societies were banned in Germany once they came to power. There was a number of people, in SS mainly, who were deeply into mysticism, and that was tolerated because of their status. So Hitler wouldn't have sent people to search for the Arc, but Himmler & co. might. Just another illustration of a common misconception about nazi-fascist regimes: they are regarded as highly organized, “precise“, bureaucracies, when in fact they were run mostly arbitrary and ad hoc, a consequence of the Fuhrer Principle.