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Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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Mac Pro, Apple Watch, Pencil, Apple Music were not iterations. There was nothing similar before them from Apple.

The Mac Pro is an overpriced fancy computer case, nothing more.

That is like saying iPhone is a fancy version of old Nokia phones and nothing more.

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The Mac Pro is pretty ancient at this point. If you see them in dev shops, it's because they simply don't have any other choice: if you want a powerful desktop Mac, then you buy the Mac Pro, even though it's three years old. And even that is not necessarily true anymore. The iMac tends to beat it on many tasks now. At this point, people buy it because they really want to bring their own monitor, or they just can't im…

That's the bind Apple's in. The market for the Mac Pro is very small, and it's also extremely demanding, they're never happy. The iMac has a much broader appeal, the market is demanding but not to the same extreme. Many designers use these machines because they've got great screens and acceptable levels of performance. I'm not sure Apple can win in the Mac Pro space without losing a ton of money. HP and Dell make hig…

I totally agree. I'm not surprised they've let it stagnate, and because of the problems you mention I fully expect them to just kill it outright at some point.

But none of that changes the fact that the Mac Pro is not "still very capable" as stated in the comment I replied to.

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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Mac Pro, Apple Watch, Pencil, Apple Music were not iterations. There was nothing similar before them from Apple.

Pencil and Watch were projects in the pipeline around the time Steve Jobs died, e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20150907064440/http://www.busine... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/watch/11452455/H... Apple Music is a logical continuation of the Beats Music store: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beats_Music . Mac Pro was released in 2006: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Pro It's not clear if there's anyth…

I am not sure you understand what I'm saying. I did not say Tim Cook thought of them, I said they were not iterations.

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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post #64

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Azure seems to be doing well and some people expect it to overtake AWS sooner rather than later in market share. The talk that Microsoft is irrelevant is a bit hilarious, given that they beat google on revenue and income last year. They have morphed from a company that is front and center to one that provides the infrastructure for the digital side of non-tech business. Microsoft Office is absolutely pervasive, and i…

The author called out, specifically, how Azure was in his opinion keeping Microsoft relevant "Nadella got Microsoft organized around mobile and the cloud (Azure), freed the Office and Azure teams from Windows, killed the phone business and got a major release of Windows out without the usual trauma. And is moving the company into augmented reality and conversational AI. While they’ll likely never regain the market do…

> got a major release of Windows out without the usual trauma

I haven't been following the Windows world closely when Windows 7 was released - but wasn't that the least traumatic OS release in a long while?

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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The article is short on details why he thinks Tim Cook is like Steve Ballmer, except for saying that Apple is slowly missing the boat on AI. I don't know what Amazon does for AI, I haven't seen anything convincing from them, but I'll trust the author that they are working on it. However it's tough to beat Google in this space, because AI and machine learning is what Google has focused on since their beginnings . Goog…

> Google's own Search has always been a limited form of AI on which most humans with access to the Internet have come to depend upon. And it is tough to beat them because they not only have 20 years of accumulated knowledge and talent, but they also have a lot of data on users and haven't been afraid to break users' privacy in order to get that data.

This is a tech industry shibboleth. Internet search is not particularly good for anyone, and it was better for power users when it wasn't much more than web-grep. Google's innovation was to count the links pointing to a page in order to determine its quality, and once Google became dominant, that technique had been gamed enough to be virtually useless. As far as I can tell, the only algorithmic improvements they've had since then have been net negatives for one's ability to search for things that they haven't searched for before, and the only effective improvements have been from manual tweaking to weed out content farms. Every search I make on Google brings up the same 80 companies that choose to spend most of their effort on SEO, but actually have a business (usually selling me something) rather than copying low-quality content. Google's image search has aggressively gotten materially worse. They've gotten so desperate for improvements that they've been systematically dismantling ethical barriers in order to squeeze out a few more dollars.

I have no idea what product establishes Google as significantly ahead of anyone in AI. They're all just a day ahead of some mathematician who has a sudden insight over her first coffee of the morning. In this, Tim Cook isn't missing anything other than a slight increase in the probability that that mathematician will be working at Apple that morning rather at than the University of Arkansas.

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

#237

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The Mac Pro is an overpriced fancy computer case, nothing more.

That is like saying iPhone is a fancy version of old Nokia phones and nothing more.

Not in the slightest. The iPhone's UI was far superior, as was its hardware.

What's special about the Mac Pro other than its case design? And what would change in how the Mac Pro functions if its guts were instead in the old Mac Pro case?

All of the guts are just an Intel processor, AMD video cards, etc. There isn't some custom magical chip in there.

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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That's the bind Apple's in. The market for the Mac Pro is very small, and it's also extremely demanding, they're never happy. The iMac has a much broader appeal, the market is demanding but not to the same extreme. Many designers use these machines because they've got great screens and acceptable levels of performance. I'm not sure Apple can win in the Mac Pro space without losing a ton of money. HP and Dell make hig…

I totally agree. I'm not surprised they've let it stagnate, and because of the problems you mention I fully expect them to just kill it outright at some point. But none of that changes the fact that the Mac Pro is not "still very capable" as stated in the comment I replied to.

Apple's take on that Pro machine was to give it an absurd amount of GPU power, and for Final Cut that's all you need.

It's terrible for rendering on CPU. It's limited in terms of expansion. It will never compete against a self-built machine.

Maybe they will kill it, but it'll be a shame if they do. The Xserve died for the same reasons: They couldn't field a competitive machine.

At some point maybe Apple will offer their OS for use on non-Apple hardware under some kind of "if it works, great" type basis, you know, for enthusiasts and people who need way more power than Apple can deliver. Maybe it'll be called something other than macOS, just like NeXTStep's OS became OpenStep?

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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That is like saying iPhone is a fancy version of old Nokia phones and nothing more.

Not in the slightest. The iPhone's UI was far superior, as was its hardware. What's special about the Mac Pro other than its case design? And what would change in how the Mac Pro functions if its guts were instead in the old Mac Pro case? All of the guts are just an Intel processor, AMD video cards, etc. There isn't some custom magical chip in there.

You should really look at http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ You cannot just add the components to any case and get the same thing.

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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As time moves on, customers get more aware of the privacy implications of everything they do online. I think Apple is ahead of the pack. Google cannot follow them because it's against their business interest. I know plenty of people who do not trust Google and stay away from their products (including Android phones) as much as is feasible.

The cost for Privacy is pretty big in terms of loss of convenience. If people really cared about it duckduckgo would be huge and gmail would have never gotten off the ground. Facebook would be a desert. Most people feel comfortable sharing and being a mostly open book. Only real privacy people care about is who gets to unlock their phone. Most people are lost in that their privacy is they are one flake in a snowstorm…

Siri being complete crap has nothing to do with privacy, in fact the original iteration of Siri sent everything to the cloud for processing. I honestly don't know how the meme got started that privacy, out of all things, is hurting Siri.

Siri cannot even remember the subject of the last question. It cannot answer meaningful questions about anything on the internet. Its knowledge of "places of interest" is terrible because Apple's database is years behind Google's. I've given up on "Hey Siri" because it just doesn't work.

If Siri is almost useless when it comes to publicly accessible information, then how would it help to give it centralised access to private information?

(Or the other way around: If Siri worked well, but was limited to publicly available information, it would still be freaking awesome. But I have my doubts about the current iteration of AI.)

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