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Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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It's a little weird for me that a company supposedly in "maintenance mode" has been ignoring the Mac for so long. Even a 5th rate computer company can manage to come out with a new model once in a while. How did Apple get to the point where a company in "maintenance mode" ignores a big product line like this for so long? Is Apple not capable of executing on more than 1 project at once?

> a big product line

There's your mistake - next to i-devices, the Mac is simply not a big product line. It's something they need to have around for ecosystem developers, and something of a brand exercise in other sectors. Nothing more.

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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Well, I'm going to be honest here, I don't give two shits about Azure. Not only because I don't use that (I don't run any system, etc) but because there are dozens of providers. Unfortunately Windows is one of a kind, so if he ruins it (and 10 is definitely a step back from 8.1, from what I've seen) he's ruined something really important for some of us, something with no known replacement. (No, OS X and Linux don't c…

> 10 is definitely a step back from 8.1, from what I've seen 10 has been an advance in every single aspect I can think of. What are you seeing as being ruined?

I agree mostly, however there are the issues of privacy, ads embedded into the OS and forced updates.

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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The article is short on details why he thinks Tim Cook is like Steve Ballmer, except for saying that Apple is slowly missing the boat on AI. I don't know what Amazon does for AI, I haven't seen anything convincing from them, but I'll trust the author that they are working on it. However it's tough to beat Google in this space, because AI and machine learning is what Google has focused on since their beginnings . Goog…

Azure seems to be doing well and some people expect it to overtake AWS sooner rather than later in market share. The talk that Microsoft is irrelevant is a bit hilarious, given that they beat google on revenue and income last year. They have morphed from a company that is front and center to one that provides the infrastructure for the digital side of non-tech business. Microsoft Office is absolutely pervasive, and i…

Like cancer.

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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One important thing that visionaries get credit for, but perhaps shouldn't... Being in the right place at the right time. It is a delightful bit of luck that Steve Jobs made it back to Apple. That scenario could have been way different where Apple bought BeOS, and Steve Jobs didn't return to Apple. If Jobs isn't at Apple, he doesn't have the opportunity or resources to make his vision for the iMac, iBook, iPod, iTune…

I'm not so sure. Jobs learned at lot at NeXT, I think the next company/product he would have worked on would have gotten it right, even if it hadn't been Apple.

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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My opinion is that the failure of Microsoft has less to do with Ballmer than with the absence of a Steve Jobs.

My experience with large corporations is that they naturally produce mediocrity. The ownership of the final product or service is too diluted, with too many people involved, pulling in too many conflicting directions. They employ people who individually know what "good" means and what should be done in an ideal world. But that knowledge and common sense gets lost with the bureaucracy and the scale of the organisation.

So unless you get someone at the top who will force the company to still achieve something great for their customers, you will end up with an MBA style manager who will make decisions based on options provided by his teams and get products designed based on specs from the top rather than trying to make something great.

A great example is Windows 8. I heard Sinofsky had already been sacked by the time he walked on stage to introduce Windows 8. Microsoft knew it was a shit OS, and decided to push it nevertheless. I have seen this happening so many times in other contexts.

But tablets are another example. Microsoft knew that tablets would be a big thing well before the introduction of the ipad. In fact I remember a pre-ipad interview of Ballmer where he was deploring that the Windows tablets never took off. The problem was that windows-based tablets were too mediocre to create a market.

But Apple is moving in that direction too now. The user experience is deteriorating with every iteration of iOS. I can't think that someone at Apple thinks it's a good user experience to nag their users with all of their services (Apply Pay, iCloud, Apple Music, etc) over and over, with multiple buttons to click to opt out. That will ultimately bite them too. Not overnight, but over 10 years like with Microsoft. Not Tim Cook's fault. That's what large corporations do.

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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The article is short on details why he thinks Tim Cook is like Steve Ballmer, except for saying that Apple is slowly missing the boat on AI. I don't know what Amazon does for AI, I haven't seen anything convincing from them, but I'll trust the author that they are working on it. However it's tough to beat Google in this space, because AI and machine learning is what Google has focused on since their beginnings . Goog…

> It would also be stupid to try and beat Google on their own turf. It would be like trying to beat Microsoft at Windows or Office, or Amazon at AWS.

Google and Apple have beaten Microsoft at Windows, by offering better options in MacOS, iOS, and Android. Microsoft is trying (and to some extent succeeding) in catching up to AWS with Azure (look who is growing faster). And if you don't think that dominating the mp3 player market, which allowed for the launch of iTunes, directly leading to the iPhone and the App Store, was important, you didn't pay attention closely.

Also, since the iPhone literally created a market and Android took about 2 years to really launch a competitor, it's pretty flawed to argue that they never beat anyone in market share.

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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If this were true Apple shouldn't be able to sell computers for a premium, and yet they do. 40 years should have been enough for commodification to take effect.

What if they are merely still selling computers at a premium because they merely used to be better and are slowly falling behind?

For me, I want the OS. I grew tired of maintaining my Linux install (and the various hardware issues), and grew tired of Windows (especially as a non-gamer). I wanted a unix-environment, OS X was the easiest way to get that in a reliable, portable system.

And then, through the network effect, my family followed suit because I'm their IT guy (actually, one of the reasons I quit Windows too, but they just keep dragging me back).

But the premium isn't too bad, IMO. I've had my current laptop (MBP, retina display) since 2012 and it's still going strong, even the original battery. I recognize that this is partially because we seem to have plateaued a bit on desktop/laptop capabilities, but I have no major issue running anything I want to run on it (modulo games, whicH I don't play so is a non-issue for me). I've also been able to reliably sell their laptops for a decent amount (could probably get more, but always sell to friends) and end up with a discounted new laptop as a result.

EDIT: Further, my experience with non-tech owners of Apple laptops versus PC laptops has been interesting. I don't know if the PC laptops are just more fragile, or if the Apple owners are more conscientious. But Apple laptops seem to last much longer and end up in much better shape (less the power cords) with "average" users. But this is purely anecdotal. A large part of that difference is probably just that a $1000-2000 PC laptop would last just as well as the same price Apple, but more PC laptop owners get the $300-500 sale price machines from Best Buy.

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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Magic Mouse happened on Jobs' watch.

Well, it did, but the second iteration happened under Cook. The original one uses AA batteries while the second iteration, pictured above, uses an integrated battery that needs recharge using the Lightning cable. As you can see, there was no redesign to accommodate this new requirement besides slapping the charge port under the mouse, making it impossible to use while charging.

Which doesn't matter, at all, because the device charges in a few minutes. As everyone who actually uses one knows.

BTW, there WAS a redesign...it's just that you don't like the redesign, which is different. Some of us like the fact that the Lightning port is hidden and not sticking out the side of the device in some ugly way.

This is a vast improvement which saves all the waste and inconvenience of throw-away batteries.

Re: Why Tim Cook Is Steve Ballmer and Why He Still Has His Job at Apple

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The article is short on details why he thinks Tim Cook is like Steve Ballmer, except for saying that Apple is slowly missing the boat on AI. I don't know what Amazon does for AI, I haven't seen anything convincing from them, but I'll trust the author that they are working on it. However it's tough to beat Google in this space, because AI and machine learning is what Google has focused on since their beginnings . Goog…

> He's a man with principles and for this I appreciate him a lot, maybe more than I ever appreciated Steve Jobs. Is he really? I mean from a strategic point of view he currently only has to gain from giving that outward appearance. Occam's Razor tells me that he is just luckily able to tread the high road because for him its the one without toll booths.

Occam's Razor actually tells you to take him at his word, as that is the simplest explanation. A major part of Occam's Razor is to eliminate the "read between the lines" gyrations that you're engaging in.

That doesn't mean you're wrong, but it's a misapplication of the principle.

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