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HN comments are underrated

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Re: HN comments are underrated

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post #29

I think HN needs a way to easily find the top comments. There are absolute gems deep in discussion threads, but you'll need to spend a lot of time reading to find them. Hence, it's very nice of Dan Luu to list some of his favorites. The top root-level comment for each comment page is obviously easy to see, but good comments deeper in the comment tree are easily lost. Would be great if e.g. the top 5% voted comments o…

I swear there was a way to show top voted comments but I can't find it now.

Re: HN comments are underrated

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The bellwether of a bad but possibly technically interesting HN comment is one that begins with a humblebrag: "One time a Fortune 500 company hired me to re-write their entire web tier using Django" or "last year, for fun, I wrote a fully-functioning TLS implementation in node".

Such nonsense (or at best, unneeded information) is intended to provide credentials so that the reader will take what follows more seriously. But ironically it only serves to erode confidence.

Re: HN comments are underrated

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I prefer cynicism over unthoughtful, inconsequential comments that floods several discussion forums that I have come across. "Nice article", "Great write-up" and the next thing you know, you have created a place where people are only interested in submitting their articles and getting it upvoted rather than make meaningful contributions. People want to make good contributions here and that's something that differenti…

I could not agree more. I'm so sick of the fake-nice, passive-agessive millenial crap on the internet. Telling someone what they want to hear isn't nice. It's demeaning. Promoting groupthink isn't nice. It's alienating. Spouting platitudes isn't nice. It's insulting. To hell with comfort. If something is wrong, say so.

Re: HN comments are underrated

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I only post a 927 when there are >6 different standards in the field, and there's no way a new one will catch on. As for the effort better spent posts, those are awful. Never post those. Instead post about how great emacs is compared to vim: you're more likely to spawn useful discussion.

And if you post the xkcd link to a discussion about a piece of software and not a new standard for which many already exist, (and I see that post,) I will proudly downvote you no matter how many examples exist. Just be glad I don't have the magic ability to force anyone to use QED to program their next project in Fortran on a CTSS box.

Yeah, just don't post 927 on software: that's dumb.

Note I said when a new one won't catch on, or is unlikely to do so, particularly of it doesn't have any significant benefits over what's already there.

Re: HN comments are underrated

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I only post a 927 when there are >6 different standards in the field, and there's no way a new one will catch on. As for the effort better spent posts, those are awful. Never post those. Instead post about how great emacs is compared to vim: you're more likely to spawn useful discussion.

And if you post the xkcd link to a discussion about a piece of software and not a new standard for which many already exist, (and I see that post,) I will proudly downvote you no matter how many examples exist. Just be glad I don't have the magic ability to force anyone to use QED to program their next project in Fortran on a CTSS box.

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Re: HN comments are underrated

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post #32

Removing the vote count was a step back. You end up with highly positioned comments that are factually wrong and no way to weigh the corrections made in replies. If you saw that a comment had 20 votes, but a reply had 500, you'd have something to go by. If nothing else, they could show the relative score of a reply to its parent.

How about just reading and evaluating what the damn words say instead of relying on a "score"?

Because there are a lot of topics, even in my professional field, where I don't have the necessary foundation.

Because sometimes a comment reaffirms or conflicts with my evaluation and it's useful to have a weight assigned to that.

Because the world has enough people who make their own evaluation and refuse to change their opinion regardless of overwhelming evidence.

Re: HN comments are underrated

#47
I think the culture of rejecting joke-only comments is significant. I love a good joke, but so does everybody else. Rewarding jokes would have a major effect on the signal/noise ratio.

Re: HN comments are underrated

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> blind optimism on all things technology or new. Often older ways have merit too. I've seen plenty of "if it ain't broke don't fix it" in the comments and complaints about engineers always trying to use the newest technology.

Yes, using any tool or language that came out after the commenter started programming is "hipster". And you see a lot of xkcd 927 and "I can't help thinking effort would have been better spent on an existing project" when someone writes any program of any type where other examples exist.

>Yes, using any tool or language that came out after the commenter started programming is "hipster".

I see this a lot, and I don't think it's a valid criticism of the issue.

It assumes either that all periods in IT are equally good, or that there's monotonic progress (both of which are wrong), and that there's no such thing as a fad, so anybody pointing one is clearly a "get off my lawn" person.

I'm with Alan Kay on this: computer science is a pop culture.

Re: HN comments are underrated

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post #41
post #29

I think HN needs a way to easily find the top comments. There are absolute gems deep in discussion threads, but you'll need to spend a lot of time reading to find them. Hence, it's very nice of Dan Luu to list some of his favorites. The top root-level comment for each comment page is obviously easy to see, but good comments deeper in the comment tree are easily lost. Would be great if e.g. the top 5% voted comments o…

I swear there was a way to show top voted comments but I can't find it now.

https://news.ycombinator.com/bestcomments

Re: HN comments are underrated

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post #41
post #29

I think HN needs a way to easily find the top comments. There are absolute gems deep in discussion threads, but you'll need to spend a lot of time reading to find them. Hence, it's very nice of Dan Luu to list some of his favorites. The top root-level comment for each comment page is obviously easy to see, but good comments deeper in the comment tree are easily lost. Would be great if e.g. the top 5% voted comments o…

I swear there was a way to show top voted comments but I can't find it now.

https://news.ycombinator.com/lists

https://news.ycombinator.com/bestcomments

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