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China’s plan to organize its society relies on ‘big data’ to rate everyone

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Project Cybersyn in 1970's Chile, http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/13/planning-machin...

"Beer was a leading theorist of cybernetics—a discipline born of midcentury efforts to understand the role of communication in controlling social, biological, and technical systems. Chile’s government had a lot to control: Allende, who took office in November of 1970, had swiftly nationalized the country’s key industries, and he promised “worker participation” in the planning process. Beer’s mission was to deliver a hypermodern information system that would make this possible, and so bring socialism into the computer age."

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This is what the DMV does with the point system. The FBI and CIA I think also collect statistics and profile relevant individuals. The difference I guess is that most of these systems are in separate silos. The Chinese government is taking the next logical step and linking it all together. Reminds me of a quote

Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.

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Trackers and social media companies try to build similar scoring systems here.

If banks or insurance companies can figure out how credit score changes of Facebook friends predicts you financial status, better abandon them if they screw things up.

https://mic.com/articles/123452/facebook-to-let-banks-discri...

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As I understand it, the reason the world have become more democratic and liberal for generations was because freedom made a society work better. The open societies out competed the closed ones.

If this model really works for China and other non democracies, so they can keep a liberal economy and still control people hard politically, then:

1984, here we come. :-(

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I just finished watching the Nosedive (Season 3, episode 1) from Black Mirror on Netflix, it shows a similar system. Unlike other Black Mirror episodes its quite well balanced. I would highly highly recommend watching it.

Exactly. I give you 5

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I just finished watching the Nosedive (Season 3, episode 1) from Black Mirror on Netflix, it shows a similar system. Unlike other Black Mirror episodes its quite well balanced. I would highly highly recommend watching it.

Same here, they are doing some very interesting design fiction stuff on this show.... Not always recommend to watch before bed though :)

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I just finished watching the Nosedive (Season 3, episode 1) from Black Mirror on Netflix, it shows a similar system. Unlike other Black Mirror episodes its quite well balanced. I would highly highly recommend watching it.

Came here to mention exactly this. The 1st world isn't far off something similar (instagram/twitter followers represents power and popularity)
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