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Re: Bored with no ideas for next startup

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"Why the hell are people still arguing this point." Because you obviously haven't got a clue what you are talking about, keep contradicting yourself, and don't know anything about neither ideas nor execution. At least not in real life. I won't reply more to this conversation - it is a pain to write, and probably boring to read.

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Re: Bored with no ideas for next startup

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A good way to come up with new ideas is live outside the tech world. Get a non-tech job in a totally different field. Haven't tried that myself, but I'd bet you'd come up with some good ideas that way.

Careful there! That implies that the best way to come up with solutions to a problem in an industry would be to get outside of it so you can get an external, top-down perspective on emerging trends and unmet needs. Then if you get an idea, you'll get a bug to implement it. But everybody will just laugh at you and scoff, "Pssst - what would you know about that? You don't even work in that field! You're not credible!"

>But everybody will just laugh at you and scoff, "Pssst - what would you know about that? You don't even work in that field! You're not credible!"

Which would put you in pretty good company.

Re: Bored with no ideas for next startup

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Your understanding of Google is not at all accurate.

On another note, I just looked at your profile and read some of your articles. Why take issues with "my understanding of Google" when it turns out I'm making a similar point to what you wrote about in terms of being humble enough to put pride aside and find out what people actually want/need/will pay for rather assuming for them only to find out that nobody cares about the brilliant programming of an idea nobody but…

You're right that startups should be focused on building things that people will want instead of just trying to use cool technology, but you're mistaken in believing that Google wasn't doing that. Google had a strong following of enthusiastic users from very early on. "Make something people want" also happens to be the YC slogan, though I think it should be "Make something people will want", since people don't always know what they want.

Re: Bored with no ideas for next startup

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Nope. I think you're just redefining execution and idea to blur the line so that what is the result of a good idea is now under the category of execution. Why the hell are people still arguing this point. In my mind the argument of "execution" vs. "good idea" is like arguing whether food or water or air or sleep is more important. You need all. Case closed. I think as people who "execute" programmers tend to have (fr…

"Why the hell are people still arguing this point." Because you obviously haven't got a clue what you are talking about, keep contradicting yourself, and don't know anything about neither ideas nor execution. At least not in real life. I won't reply more to this conversation - it is a pain to write, and probably boring to read.

Sorry about the brash comment above, it doesn't add value to the discussion.

I just got a bit disillusioned.

Re: Bored with no ideas for next startup

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I think firewall and NAT ubiquitousness (is that a word?) would make this unfeasible.

Yet another reason to speed the transition to IPv6.

IPv6 has nothing to do with firewalls and NAT issues. Firewalls in particular will remain in place and render this setup unfeasible.

Re: Bored with no ideas for next startup

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Patentable and useful doesn't necessarily mean good business. I'm assuming the "bored developer" wants to start a business around whatever idea he can't think of. There are ideas, some useful, some even patentable, but to make a business you need not so much patents but the ability to present it in such a way that a prospective customer thinks, "That provides me with more value than the price they're asking for, so I…

Useful implies that a potential customer in the specific market would want to pay for it. ;-) Regarding your starbucks example: the value of Starbucks is not in the idea but in the execution, and that is not what this thread is about. And while I don't mind giving away ideas I can't help anybody execute. Unless I get paid to do so of course ;-)

I don't typically spend money unless something hurts, in which case I'll often spend far more than I should.

If you can find a product that makes a "pain" go away -- you've probably got something marketable.

Re: Bored with no ideas for next startup

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"Why the hell are people still arguing this point." Because you obviously haven't got a clue what you are talking about, keep contradicting yourself, and don't know anything about neither ideas nor execution. At least not in real life. I won't reply more to this conversation - it is a pain to write, and probably boring to read.

Sorry about the brash comment above, it doesn't add value to the discussion. I just got a bit disillusioned.

Hey, no problem. You're not alone. Happens to everyone from time to time. Things are weird these days and that leads to extra frustration on top of the frustration of trying to start something new. I appreciate that you were big enough to say that. I'm sorry if my comments caused any offense also.

If you care to discuss, may I ask what in particular got you disillusioned?

Re: Bored with no ideas for next startup

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"Why the hell are people still arguing this point." Because you obviously haven't got a clue what you are talking about, keep contradicting yourself, and don't know anything about neither ideas nor execution. At least not in real life. I won't reply more to this conversation - it is a pain to write, and probably boring to read.

Sorry about the brash comment above, it doesn't add value to the discussion. I just got a bit disillusioned.

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Re: Bored with no ideas for next startup

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Careful there! That implies that the best way to come up with solutions to a problem in an industry would be to get outside of it so you can get an external, top-down perspective on emerging trends and unmet needs. Then if you get an idea, you'll get a bug to implement it. But everybody will just laugh at you and scoff, "Pssst - what would you know about that? You don't even work in that field! You're not credible!"

>But everybody will just laugh at you and scoff, "Pssst - what would you know about that? You don't even work in that field! You're not credible!" Which would put you in pretty good company.

True.
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