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Re: Samsung 'blocks' exploding Note 7 parody videos

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By uploading a parody video of a Samsung Galaxy exploding, I don't understand how there is a law being broken? Can someone explain how this is a copyright issue?

It's not a copyright issue. What Samsung is doing (filing phony DMCA takedown complaints) is completely illegal.

Re: Samsung 'blocks' exploding Note 7 parody videos

#202
Samsung must really not want to be in the mobile phone business anymore. The dim-witted actions they're taking in regards to these videos will only turn more people off. I for one will never consider a Samsung product now, and not just their mobile phones. They're set to join Sony on my relatively short "do not buy" list.

Re: Samsung 'blocks' exploding Note 7 parody videos

#203

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

No shit. Is that the best you can do? Link to Wikipedia for the Streisand effect when the story already explains what that is?

I might follow your lead and add links to Wikipedia's entry for...

GTA V: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_V

The BBC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC

and Youtube: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube

Just in case anyone out there has NFI what these are.

Re: Samsung 'blocks' exploding Note 7 parody videos

#204
post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your presupposition is that it is in Google's (and Youtube's) best interest to guarantee that videos are correctly allowed or denied based on the balance of copyright, trademark and fair use. It could very well be that their best interest is in satisfying their big customers, the companies that invest massive amounts of money in advertising, publishing and divulging their products and services through Google platform…

It's amazing how people act like they have the "right" to post some content anywhere. Youtube, facebook, reddit, hacker news are all private organizations. They are not legally obligated to host your content (in some cases, like copyright infringement, they are legally obligated to NOT host your content). The only thing that keeps these sites from arbitrarily censoring their users is money. If facebook deleted every…

Have you ever read the marketing material from those companies? Because they do talk about their mission to host your content.

Re: Samsung 'blocks' exploding Note 7 parody videos

#205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Logos can be trademarks. They're very rarely copyrighted. And they are generally blurred out for product-placement reasons, not because showing them on television is infringement. I don't know what you're referring to, but if a filmmaker is sued because the Simpsons is playing in the background of a movie... that is definitely a possible legitimate copyright issue. I'd assume that fair use would apply, though.

Logos can be trademarks. They're very rarely copyrighted. How can that be? Every artistic work is automatically under copyright (see the Berne Convention, which the US adopted in 1988), so why wouldn't logos be?

Trademarks don't expire provided they remain in commercial use. Copyrighting them serves little purpose.

Re: Samsung 'blocks' exploding Note 7 parody videos

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Capitalism is great, but if it gets out of hand, government intervention is needed. Two good examples are the breakup of Ma Bell and US v. Microsoft (2001). For a present day problem, look no further than ISPs.

There is regulation. It's called the DMCA and it actually forces Google to take down any video that Samsung claims to be theirs.

And in this case, it's a false claim. Thus: it's an abuse of the DMCA.

Re: Samsung 'blocks' exploding Note 7 parody videos

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post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's amazing how people act like they have the "right" to post some content anywhere. Youtube, facebook, reddit, hacker news are all private organizations. They are not legally obligated to host your content (in some cases, like copyright infringement, they are legally obligated to NOT host your content). The only thing that keeps these sites from arbitrarily censoring their users is money. If facebook deleted every…

>It's amazing how people act like they have the "right" to post some content anywhere. It's amazing how, every time a private organization is criticized for how it handles speech on its platform, some tedious rando jumps out of the woodwork to smugly lecture everyone about how private organizations don't have legal obligations to host anything. Yes. We know. We know, we know, we know, we all know. The First Amendment…

Going even further, another way to interpret the 1st Amendment is that it is the federal governments responsibility to protect those freedoms, and that it would be well within the power of Congress to enact laws prohibiting the censoring of free speech, even on so called private platforms. This sort of thing has been done in the past, for example by prohibiting discrimination based on race even in private establishments.

Re: Samsung 'blocks' exploding Note 7 parody videos

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's amazing how people act like they have the "right" to post some content anywhere. It's amazing how, every time a private organization is criticized for how it handles speech on its platform, some tedious rando jumps out of the woodwork to smugly lecture everyone about how private organizations don't have legal obligations to host anything. Yes. We know. We know, we know, we know, we all know. The First Amendment…

Going even further, another way to interpret the 1st Amendment is that it is the federal governments responsibility to protect those freedoms, and that it would be well within the power of Congress to enact laws prohibiting the censoring of free speech, even on so called private platforms. This sort of thing has been done in the past, for example by prohibiting discrimination based on race even in private establishme…

Actually, I don't think this is a valid interpretation of the First Amendment, which is written specifically to circumscribe the powers given to Congress, beginning "Congress shall make no law..."

Re: Samsung 'blocks' exploding Note 7 parody videos

#210
post #12

Wonder if the attention put on YouTube here will inspire Google to fix the financial and political 'infringement' takedowns. Eg, during the takedown process, have something like: > [ ] I understand that satire and political commentary does not in itself consititute copyright infringement, and that I am not filing this notice on the basis of the video satirizing or making commentary on my copywritten content. > [ ] I…

Your presupposition is that it is in Google's (and Youtube's) best interest to guarantee that videos are correctly allowed or denied based on the balance of copyright, trademark and fair use. It could very well be that their best interest is in satisfying their big customers, the companies that invest massive amounts of money in advertising, publishing and divulging their products and services through Google platform…

Ironically, an implication of your words is that a state owned video sharing site would not only adhere to the 1st amendment much better but would also serve consumer interest in a more balanced way.
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