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Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Re: Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Post by NetStrikeForce »

cma wrote: post #119
NetStrikeForce wrote: post #116

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I can't answer for Op, but I've been a Linux user at work for many years and OSX at home. I sold my last Mac in 2013 and used Linux for a couple of years until I tried Windows 10. I never used (or plan to use) Windows for servers. I had interest in Nano Server, then I realized it's not free and although running in the cloud I could probably feel no big difference in spending, I just don't have expertise (or will to l…

One Note runs on Mac.

I honestly haven't tried it on Mac. It also runs on Android and iOS which is great.

I'm in the market for a cheap-ish ultraportable with good battery and I'm considering a second hand Air or MacBook. When it comes to the OS, why would I go back to macOS?

(Note that I would go back if I've found a cheap enough Air ;))

Re: Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Post by bitmapbrother »

NetStrikeForce wrote: post #120
bitmapbrother wrote: post #83

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Given their low market share they're not kicking anyone's butt.

https://rcpmag.com/articles/2016/08/02/microsoft-behind-aws-... Azure seems to have higher market share though? In HN I rarely see talk about Azure and I see a lot of Google Cloud. Out there, where I consult with enterprise customers among other things, I see a lot of Azure and almost no Google. It would seem that Google sells well among startups and in the Bay Area while Microsoft sells a lot to enterprise.

The chart you linked to showed one thing very clearly - AWS is kicking everyone's butt. In terms of YoY growth, Google was the biggest at 162%. Microsoft and IBM should be very concerned about that considering all of the new datacenters Google has coming online in 2017.

Re: Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Post by paulddraper »

mattnewton wrote: post #35
Bud wrote: post #25

Even as a longtime Apple fan and inveterate Microsoft-hater, I have to hand it to Satya Nadella and Microsoft as a whole. Their success is deserved. I work with basically the full range of Microsoft products in my job and what I see is that everything has improved lately. Windows is better, Office is better, their cloud offerings are better, and even the Surface is better. Now, if they would only improve the licensin…

I was with you until the "windows is better part" Windows 10 has been the worst desktop experience I have ever encountered. From day 1 I have had driver issues, forced updates, no matter how I configure the time zone resets to GMT (which is great because it uses 3am as a time to restart and force installing updates). To say nothing if the awful UI. I had none of these issues with Ubuntu and I paid Microsoft for this…

Yeah, windows peaked at 7

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Post by solipsism »

mattmanser wrote: post #54
jesusjzp wrote: post #29

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Portal is one of the interfaces for Azure resources management. I'd highly suggest you to take a look at PowerShell CLI and Azure Node.js CLI.

Seriously? The portal is bad so use a CLI? I don't want to have to look up the commands every time I want to run a thing I do once a month, quarter or year. I just want to click a button that doesn't take 20 fucking seconds to load and isn't buried amongst a ton of useless menu items. The joke in our office is that the Azure team gave the portal interface to the interns to do. It's a UI that's poorly thought out, poo…

Certain types of people with amazing memories like CLIs, but please don't inflict them on the rest of us. They're shit.

Stupid thing to say. CLIs are much more flexible than GUIs. You can't feed one GUI component's output into the input of another.

They're not for everyone or for every use-case. But CLIs will be around longer than you will.

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Post by Zigurd »

I would expect this, and I would expect this trend to continue for several years. Almost every Windows server running in a corporate machine room or departmental closet should be an instance in the Azure Cloud.

Microsoft will be delivering extra value by providing the hardware and taking responsibility for running these systems, and will generate recurring revenue for as long as the customer needs what's on those servers. This is a gold mine Microsoft can dig for many years.

Re: Microsoft Shares Soar to Record on Earnings Boost From Cloud

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Post by WalterBright »

MagnumOpus wrote: post #107
WalterBright wrote: post #90

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Consider that Microsoft started paying dividends after 2000, a yield of about 2.5%. A rough calculation of that compounding for 16 years is 150%.

2.5% compounded over 16 years is exactly 48.5%, nowhere near 150.

You're right, my mistake.

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Post by wslh »

peterkshultz wrote: post #109
wslh wrote: post #50

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In some aspects Microsoft has changed for the best (e.g. open source, developer community relationship) and in others it is changing for the worst. This is my list: - Skype protocol centralization and crashing all the time - Surface Book Issues - Updates and malware detection that can't be turned off - Windows 10 leaking information to Microsoft that you can't control. - Windows Phone (down) - Azure changing their pr…

What have been your problems with the Surface Book?

Please check https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/search?q=surface+book+issue...

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Post by wvenable »

criddell wrote: post #66
elcct wrote: post #40

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Maybe you are the unlucky one. I wouldn't trade windows 10 for anything else.

Windows 10 is 90% great for me. The 10% that annoys me is mostly around the way update works. If you have long running processes (like security camera DVR software, big render jobs, etc...) having the OS decide to reboot in the middle of the night is a bit of a headache. I know you can disable the update service, but it would be nice if they just put that in the windows update UI. The other part that bugs me are the…

At least only major service-pack level updates actually cause everything to install/reinstall. It's kind of funny how Microsoft has their official "one version of Windows" marketing when there are clearly different versions with difficult names ("anniversary update").

But I laugh at your comment because I, as well, spent a day uninstalling the re-installed bloatware apps and re-installing my VPN client.

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Post by m_mueller »

zzleeper wrote: post #91
hollerith wrote: post #38

>The shares surged as much as 5.6 percent to a record $60.45. The last time Microsoft was trading near that level was in 1999. Using share price is suboptimal because the number of shares outstanding has decreased significantly since 1999. Better to use market cap (which is share price times the number of shares outstanding). (According to wikipedia) Microsoft reached a market cap of $618.9 billion in December 1999,…

You should also subtract cash from mkt cap, as both are huge for 2000s MSFT an current aapl

Why would you subtract the cash to evaluate a company? Cash can easily be turned into something with actual value, so IMO it should be included.

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Post by jlgaddis »

return0 wrote: post #117
hbosch wrote: post #67

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I have worked mainly on OSX for my career, and recently had to switch to Windows for VR work. I started on Windows 7 and absolutely hated it. I hated the visual style of it, the awful UX of it, and just found it to be painful all-the-way-around. Sitting down at my desk in the morning, I'd almost always utter a small sigh of frustration just logging in. When we finally got cleared by IT to go ahead with Windows 10 I w…

Interesting. I have the opposite opinion. My measure of quality is how quickly i can do common tasks, and i found that Win10 gets in the way so much, that i am now installing win7 in my new laptops. Imho win7 hit a gold standard for usability in many years

Off-topic: Is it now possible to keep a Windows 7 machine on W7 and fully prevent it from being upgraded to 10 (without an absurd amount of effort being required)? My daily usage is probably 90% Linux/10% Mac but recently I've been considering setting up a W7 VM on my laptop. I do NOT want W10 at all, however, and don't want to even bother if it's just going to end up with W10 anyways (I've heard plenty of "forced upgrade" horror stories). If it matters, this would be a W7 Pro volume license.
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