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DDoS Attack Against Dyn Managed DNS

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Re: DDoS Attack Against Dyn Managed DNS

#391

It is spreading to other DNS providers, too: https://status.fastly.com/ www.ft.com is unreachable for example.

Fastly is simply putting up a status page so they aren't contacted about issues, and letting them know it's about DYN. And they are having internal issues with communications like zendesk.

Re: DDoS Attack Against Dyn Managed DNS

#392
post #68

I'm a GitHub employee and want to let everyone know we're aware of the problems this incident is causing and are actively working to mitigate the impact. "A global event is affecting an upstream DNS provider. GitHub services may be intermittently available at this time." is the content from our latest status update on Twitter ( https://twitter.com/githubstatus/status/789452827269664769 ). Reposted here since some peo…

I'm curious why you don't host your status page on a different domain/provider? When checking this AM why GitHub was down, I also couldn't reach the status page.

Lots of companies use Twitter for that sort of real-time status reporting, whose own up/down status one would think is sufficiently uncorrelated... unfortunately the internet is complicated.

Re: DDoS Attack Against Dyn Managed DNS

#393
post #53

Very funny guys, can you stop now? We have a demo in 4 minutes.

How did the demo go?

Well, the parts that relied out outside services hooked up via SSO were not demoed, but majority of it worked fine because demo server was misconfigured to not actually rely on the external services. It is pretty funny.

Re: DDoS Attack Against Dyn Managed DNS

#395

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Presumably with something like `dig @208.67.220.220 -t CNAME .herokussl.com`. This uses the OpenDNS nameservers, that people have been reporting as working. Haven't tested it as I am on the go.

thanks! figured it out but appreciate the help!!

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#396

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thanks! figured it out but appreciate the help!!

I'm seeing "connection timed out; no servers could be reached". Anyone else seeing that when trying to run the above command?

did you switch your computer's dns servers to openDNS?

208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220

(or specify dns server in the command)

Re: DDoS Attack Against Dyn Managed DNS

#397

Switch to OpenDNS servers - 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220. Even google NS are down it seems. Heroku works after switching to opendns.

Here's the link that verifies OpenDNS's addresses (if you're wary of trusting a single HN comment): https://use.opendns.com/

Re: DDoS Attack Against Dyn Managed DNS

#398

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I'm surprised; I would have thought such large sites would use more than one DNS provider? I mean: $ host -t NS twitter.com twitter.com name server ns4.p34.dynect.net. twitter.com name server ns3.p34.dynect.net. twitter.com name server ns2.p34.dynect.net. twitter.com name server ns1.p34.dynect.net. I would have expected at least one of those to be somewhere else. What is the reason they would not have a backup provid…

I know a lot about some things, but almost nothing about networking, so excuse me if this is a really dumb question but - would your physical location determine what hosts you returned from that query? Like if you were in Asia would you get different ones back?

The network definitely can (and often does) do load balancing by offering different DNS results for different regions.

Re: DDoS Attack Against Dyn Managed DNS

#399

I thought DNS (particularly public) was basically immune to DDoS? If one DNS server is down, use the cached result or another server. DNS is some of the most distributable, cachable data I can imagine.

Depends on how many PoPs they have. Looks like they have 4 easter US.[0] If they are seeing large attacks that Krebs saw a few weeks ago, that could certainly be enough to take down one or two, and then causing redirected traffic to take down the other two.

I used to work for a DNS/DDoS provider, and this was a very real problem. Leave the PoPs that are being affected out, or risk overloading the other PoPs by overloading real traffic.

Before moving the other traffic, you also have to worry about blocking the DDoS traffic otherwise you're just redirecting them to the other PoPs. Mitigating DDoS attacks are not fun, and hard to block.

[0]http://dyn.com/dns/network-map/

Re: DDoS Attack Against Dyn Managed DNS

#400
post #341

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If your DNS server is offline, is the last record it returned when it was online really the "wrong" one? There'd be no right one in that case.

Exactly. You can't know if it is still valid, so you might send clients to an IP that's now controlled by somebody else. Worst case, they know and set up a phishing site. DNS generally has been reliable enough that the trade-off is not worth it.

> Worst case, they know and set up a phishing site.

They'd need to specifically gain access to the last known good IP address, which might be different depending on which DNS resolver you talk to (geodistribution, when the record was last updated, etc). I wouldn't really consider that a realistic attack vector.

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