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Re: Nintendo Switch – New Video Game System [video]

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Post by greenshackle2 » Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 3:51 PM UTC

dogma1138 wrote: post #530

greenshackle2 wrote: post #414

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The Shield is 1900x1200, the Switch will run at 720p in mobile mode, for "performance reasons". Pretty sure they mean for battery life reasons. It will push out 1080p when docked so it's not like the GPU can't handle it.

The AAA PC ports do not run anywhere close to the native 1200p resolution of the Shield, the run at sub 720p so it doesn't matter. Most other games also don't run at 1200p, and probably not even 1080p unless they are simple games. Current consoles don't push 1080p games properly so the non-native resolution was never even in question.

Ouch. Backpack full of battery packs it is then.

Re: Nintendo Switch – New Video Game System [video]

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Post by makapuf » Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 4:01 PM UTC

danbolt wrote: post #409

city41 wrote: post #242

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Lagging in specs is a major reason 3rd parties shun Nintendo's consoles. Porting a game between XB1, PS4 and PC is relatively easy due to them all being of similar caliber. But the cutbacks required for porting to Wii U usually means they just don't bother.

The lesser performance can be a setback for Nintendo systems in some ways, but I think the DS and 3DS outperformed their competitors due to having cheaper hardware. The lower price point made appealing-looking games less of a financial commitment.

This started with the real gb in fact, it was much less capable than other systems (but had decent battery life)

Re: Nintendo Switch – New Video Game System [video]

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Post by sebringj » Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 4:51 PM UTC

sebringj wrote: post #278

Might be a good time to buy Nintendo stock.

I went all in with Nintendo's Wii offering after watching the Japanese commercials and made a nice chunk of change. The Wii was a game changer at the time and I get the same happy tingly feeling offering on this as well. Nintendo innovated again in the completely sideways manner we are used to, bucking the VR roadmap.

Re: Nintendo Switch – New Video Game System [video]

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Post by OMGTehAwsome » Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 5:19 PM UTC

emsy wrote: post #381

TulliusCicero wrote: post #97

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The Wii U shop isn't completely awful, but it's pretty bad. Both the 3DS and Wii U shops suffer from two major problems: 1. They're slow. 2. There are far too many screens/taps necessary to do things. Loading each new screen seems to take at least a few seconds, and there are way too many of them. I'd estimate you could remove like half the screens in the 3DS shop purchase flow through better UX design. Just compare…

Another weird thing: I have a 3DS and a 3DS XL but purchases can only be installed on 1 system. This is also a problem if your system breaks, because your games are tied to your console.

For eShop games you can call Nintendo and they can transfer the licenses (I did it when upgrading to a New 3DS.) For me the real bummer was that your saves are also tied to your console and it's more complicated transferring those. I don't mind paying 30-40$ for another game license, but it really hurt losing 100+ hours of progress in several unfinished games.

Re: Nintendo Switch – New Video Game System [video]

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Post by jbmorgado » Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 5:31 PM UTC

eropple wrote: post #486

jbmorgado wrote: post #444

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Why am I being donwvoted for making a factual comment? This is clearly an abuse of the downvote system. Any mechanism in place to report this?

I think you were downvoted because you misread the comment you were replying to, which generally isn't considered productive. It happens, it's not abuse of the system. (You were then downvoted for complaining about votes, because that is universally considered negative behavior.) You can always email hn@ycombinator.com if you'd like.

> you misread the comment you were replying to,

No, I didn't misread anything, like the OP then cleared out in answering my original comment, it was him that mixed the dates.

Re: Nintendo Switch – New Video Game System [video]

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Post by j2bax » Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 6:36 PM UTC

shuntress wrote: post #192

6stringmerc wrote: post #70

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Other than Mario Kart my go-to would be N64's Goldeneye. That thing was a masterpiece in so many ways.

I also played a ton of goldeneye when I was around 10 years old, so I get where you are coming from and it pains me to be the bearer of bad news but that game is ... so bad. That doesn't mean it wasn't fun. It doesn't invalidate the good times we had. But there is so much about that game (from the controller itself, to the control layout, to the gameplay) that just does not hold up. N64 Goldeneye is a clunky, hard to…

I also played a lot of Goldeneye multiplayer as a kid. My memories of it are far fonder than more recent plays on emulators! That said, I learned through a comment a couple years ago on HN that Goldeneye's multiplayer mode was a total afterthought, not really supported by the publisher and more or less done by one guy (or at least a very small team) in a month or two. Pretty incredible, considering its kind of the grandfather of local multiplayer first person shooters. I don't think its fair to hold it up against many other games that jumped off its shoulders.

If you haven't, I recommend checking out the story on Goldeneye!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoldenEye_007_(1997_video_game...

Re: Nintendo Switch – New Video Game System [video]

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Post by eropple » Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 8:13 PM UTC

jbmorgado wrote: post #535

eropple wrote: post #486

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I think you were downvoted because you misread the comment you were replying to, which generally isn't considered productive. It happens, it's not abuse of the system. (You were then downvoted for complaining about votes, because that is universally considered negative behavior.) You can always email hn@ycombinator.com if you'd like.

> you misread the comment you were replying to, No, I didn't misread anything, like the OP then cleared out in answering my original comment, it was him that mixed the dates.

Telling you what you wanted to know wasn't an invitation to argue with me. I am the OP to whom you refer. I didn't mix the dates; you misread the antecedent to which "release date" referred and, in an effort to treat your response in good faith, I issued a mea culpa I then edited out when I realized that I had had it straight in the first place.

Re: Nintendo Switch – New Video Game System [video]

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Post by qwertyuiop924 » Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 8:55 PM UTC

thedudemabry wrote: post #504

qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #338

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Indeed it is: Games like Halo heavily de-emphasize it, and games like Titanfall and Overwatch and such don't even have it anymore: Once upon a time, if an MP-only game didn't have Local Multiplayer on console, it would have been laughed out of the room.

One possible benefit of the hybrid handheld/docked model is that each player maintains their own system and screen, independent of whether or not they have control of the television or are even in the same room as their opponent. I don't know how much Nintendo is going to implement with regards to their online services, but if they do this right, they would have the killer family gaming machine ecosystem. They could:…

It's implied that the Switch will have the standard multiple controller setup when you plug it into the TV.

Some of that stuff might get implemented, but no, each player needn't necessarily have their own console.

Re: Nintendo Switch – New Video Game System [video]

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Post by qwertyuiop924 » Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 8:56 PM UTC

fsloth wrote: post #510

mcphage wrote: post #331

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How many of them are Microsoft published, and how many of them are cross-platform?

Sorry, no idea. I don't really see what the difference is from user perspective either way (as long as the feature is compatible with the underlying hardware). My experience is that of a bystander with fairly high standards none the less. My kids seem to love Skylanders, Disney Infinity and Plants vs Zombies Garden warfare local multiplayer on Xbox one and what I observe works great.

Those ones do, but the games for which this is true are increasingly rare. It's no longer an assumption with multiplayer games.

Re: Nintendo Switch – New Video Game System [video]

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Post by jbmorgado » Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 9:55 PM UTC

eropple wrote: post #537

jbmorgado wrote: post #535

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> you misread the comment you were replying to, No, I didn't misread anything, like the OP then cleared out in answering my original comment, it was him that mixed the dates.

Telling you what you wanted to know wasn't an invitation to argue with me. I am the OP to whom you refer. I didn't mix the dates; you misread the antecedent to which "release date" referred and, in an effort to treat your response in good faith, I issued a mea culpa I then edited out when I realized that I had had it straight in the first place.

What did you had straight in the first place, the fact that your comment wasn't clear about if you where talking about Fallout 4 (like you said in the mea culpa that you now removed) or Skyrim Special Edition, or that you said it "came out 3 years ago"?

Because neither Fallout 4, Skyrim original and Skyrim Special Edition "came out 3 years ago", and if you weren't going around editing your comments, my comment would be both factual and properly addressing your original comment.