And in a few years expect to read "Bombardier to Cut 7,500 Additional Jobs Through 2023." Such is life in a demand-limited economy, where the more companies cut jobs and pay, the more their profitability and the larger economy suffers, and the more they further cut jobs.
I remember the team I was in at the time being told in 2008 by a senior executive of the large industrial company I was at that the prevailing management consulting view on how to survive a recession was to "cut quickly and cut deep". He then went on to explain that the management team were surprised at how quickly orders from customers were drying up. Pointing out that if everyone was cutting quickly and deeply then…
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember the team I was in at the time being told in 2008 by a senior executive of the large industrial company I was at that the prevailing management consulting view on how to survive a recession was to "cut quickly and cut deep". He then went on to explain that the management team were surprised at how quickly orders from customers were drying up. Pointing out that if everyone was cutting quickly and deeply then…
In my experience, working at a company where independent thought is career limit is soul crushing.
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#23And in a few years expect to read "Bombardier to Cut 7,500 Additional Jobs Through 2023." Such is life in a demand-limited economy, where the more companies cut jobs and pay, the more their profitability and the larger economy suffers, and the more they further cut jobs.
I remember the team I was in at the time being told in 2008 by a senior executive of the large industrial company I was at that the prevailing management consulting view on how to survive a recession was to "cut quickly and cut deep". He then went on to explain that the management team were surprised at how quickly orders from customers were drying up. Pointing out that if everyone was cutting quickly and deeply then…
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#24Bombardier is a weird company. It's one of those huge conglomerations that is in multiple lines of business, like some of the Japanese consortiums. This article mentions their aerospace and rail lines, which I wasn't even aware of; their more visible business, as far as I know, is in ATVs, snowmobiles, and jetskis.
I, on the other hand, did not know they made things other than public transport vehicles such as planes and trains. I'd say anyone who has travelled a modest amount on planes will have flown on one of their planes and most people will have used one of their trains if they've ever been to a large city (one might not realize that this is the case however).
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In my experience, working at a company where independent thought is career limit is soul crushing.
Actually it was a very good place to work - lots of extremely smart people, which is probably why I remember the apparent failure (or unwillingness) to make that inference.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems like they've been having financial difficulties for the last 10-20 years. It's almost like they are the Radio Shack of trains/plains/snowmobiles.
They have horrible management, which is where the "layoffs" should happen. They have great engineers, skilled craftsmen, workers, etc., but the upper ranks and board of directors are full of patronage and incest.
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#27> Chief Executive Officer Alain Bellemare said he did not expect the job cuts, which include 1,500 workers in Quebec and 500 in the rest of Canada, would affect the company's talks with the federal government over a $1 billion investment in its CSeries jet program. "Hey Federal Government, we'd like you to help us out to the tune of a billion dollars, because we're such a big important employer here in Canada... also…
The layoffs mentioned here seem to be more related to the rail division than to aircraft manufacturing. The rail division which appears to have a lot of problems.
http://business.financialpost.com/news/transportation/bombar...
http://spacing.ca/toronto/2016/05/03/bombardiers-mexico-prob...
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Visible to who? I only know of them because I ride in subway cars they made. http://www.bombardier.com/en/transportation/products-service... Nobody rides ATVs, snowmobiles and jetskis. Everyone rides the subway.
I've never ridden in a Bombardier subway car. I have driven a Bombardier snowmobile.
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#29Bombardier is a weird company. It's one of those huge conglomerations that is in multiple lines of business, like some of the Japanese consortiums. This article mentions their aerospace and rail lines, which I wasn't even aware of; their more visible business, as far as I know, is in ATVs, snowmobiles, and jetskis.
The snowmobiles et al aren't part of Bombardier-proper any more, that part of the business was sold-off back in 2003 to focus on the 'core' of transportation systems. They're made by BRP now ( Bombardier Recreational Products, technically, though they can't use the name ) who seem to be doing fine. Bombardier is a running joke in Northern Ireland, where they bought Short Brothers[0] and shut-down a promising and well…
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#30Worth highlighting I am not saying this with disdain for the private equity industry. One of its intanigble benefits is that it serves as an agent of dramatic change for companies and industries - change that cannot spontaneously occur for public or government owned institutions (e.g. the post office). Will be interesting to see how this plays out long term...