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32GB iPhone 7 significantly slower than more expensive versions, tests show

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Re: 32GB iPhone 7 significantly slower than more expensive versions, tests show

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A slowdown is to be expected with Solid State Disks; as smaller SSDs are slower then larger ones. Simply because larger ones have more NAND chips and are therefore able to write to more locations at once. https://superuser.com/questions/977080/does-a-large-ssd-perf...

that explains the 25-30% slower read speed, it does not explain the nearly 10 times slower write speed, there must be something else going on

Re: 32GB iPhone 7 significantly slower than more expensive versions, tests show

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post #5

title omission: "... in benchmarks". In the real world, the flash speed difference is rather insignificant. I don't copy around huge 4K movies on my phone very often.

IF you only have 32GB of storage you won't be doing that anyhow.

On some level it doesn't really matter, it stinks but it doesn't matter.

That said it might affect the camera performance in the long run, but then again if you are going to film 4K and take tons of RAW photos get the bigger storage since it's not expandable.

Re: 32GB iPhone 7 significantly slower than more expensive versions, tests show

#13

A slowdown is to be expected with Solid State Disks; as smaller SSDs are slower then larger ones. Simply because larger ones have more NAND chips and are therefore able to write to more locations at once. https://superuser.com/questions/977080/does-a-large-ssd-perf...

that explains the 25-30% slower read speed, it does not explain the nearly 10 times slower write speed, there must be something else going on

It explains write speed differences, see http://www.anandtech.com/show/8747/samsung-ssd-850-evo-revie... for example, bigger drives support faster writes. Though 10 times slower speed should be more than what is explainable by that.

Re: 32GB iPhone 7 significantly slower than more expensive versions, tests show

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A slowdown is to be expected with Solid State Disks; as smaller SSDs are slower then larger ones. Simply because larger ones have more NAND chips and are therefore able to write to more locations at once. https://superuser.com/questions/977080/does-a-large-ssd-perf...

that explains the 25-30% slower read speed, it does not explain the nearly 10 times slower write speed, there must be something else going on

You bring up a good point a 10x slowdown is quite dramatic. I have edited my original post to make it sound like less NAND chips in the SDD isn't the only issue.

Re: 32GB iPhone 7 significantly slower than more expensive versions, tests show

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

that explains the 25-30% slower read speed, it does not explain the nearly 10 times slower write speed, there must be something else going on

You bring up a good point a 10x slowdown is quite dramatic. I have edited my original post to make it sound like less NAND chips in the SDD isn't the only issue.

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Re: 32GB iPhone 7 significantly slower than more expensive versions, tests show

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My suspicion is that it has to do with the test and the SLC cache. In the iPhone 7, most of the flash is TLC, but a portion of the flash is configured as much faster (for writes) SLC. The cache buffers a certain amount of writes, later transferring them to TLC. On a bigger drive this cache is bigger. So if the test fits into SLC cache on the bigger phone but falls out of it on the smaller phone, that (combined with lower write parallelism with fewer flash chips) would explain the write delta.

Re: 32GB iPhone 7 significantly slower than more expensive versions, tests show

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A slowdown is to be expected with Solid State Disks; as smaller SSDs are slower then larger ones. Simply because larger ones have more NAND chips and are therefore able to write to more locations at once. https://superuser.com/questions/977080/does-a-large-ssd-perf...

That isn't a general rule at all, and it would be foolhardy to generally apply it. While there are cases where it may be true, in many other cases multiple chips sit behind a single controller and are accessed serially -- some easy examples are that the Intel 750 1.2GB has virtually identical performance to the 400GB. The Samsung Pro 950 256GB, 512GB, and 2TB all have virtually identical performance.

And on smartphones, it is very, very seldom the case that flash storage varies in speed between capacities, beyond simply vendor differences. Which is probably the case here.

Re: 32GB iPhone 7 significantly slower than more expensive versions, tests show

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post #16

My suspicion is that it has to do with the test and the SLC cache. In the iPhone 7, most of the flash is TLC, but a portion of the flash is configured as much faster (for writes) SLC. The cache buffers a certain amount of writes, later transferring them to TLC. On a bigger drive this cache is bigger. So if the test fits into SLC cache on the bigger phone but falls out of it on the smaller phone, that (combined with l…

Thank you for your much more in depth explanation then my very simplistic answer.

Re: 32GB iPhone 7 significantly slower than more expensive versions, tests show

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A slowdown is to be expected with Solid State Disks; as smaller SSDs are slower then larger ones. Simply because larger ones have more NAND chips and are therefore able to write to more locations at once. https://superuser.com/questions/977080/does-a-large-ssd-perf...

that explains the 25-30% slower read speed, it does not explain the nearly 10 times slower write speed, there must be something else going on

I would think it is just them buying cheaper 32GB drives from another manufacture. Just like different USB flash drives have varying performance depending on who makes them.

Re: 32GB iPhone 7 significantly slower than more expensive versions, tests show

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More troublesome than the slower SSD speeds is the lower quality Intel Modem compared with the Qualcomm Modem -- at least in large cities where there are large buildings that block signal. Meanwhile, the Samsung S7 has the Qualcomm Modem (MDM 9645M) with 4 antennas that allow for 4x4 MIMO, 256 QAM DL, EVS (Enhanced voice services). On the Samsung phone the 4x4 MIMO is now turned on as is the EVS (Ultra HD voice), the later which provides higher quality voice and operable at lower signal strength than current HD voice.

For those of us the own the Verizon/Sprint version, I wish that Apple would at least match the capabilities of the Samsung S7 that shipped 6 months before the iPhone 7. The difference is the quality of the voice and the ability to communicate when signals are weaker.

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