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Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by unicornporn »

redial wrote: post #111
unicornporn wrote: post #92

Argh... For a second or two I thought to myself: perhaps this camera phone will have a lens with a sane focal length! But nope, massive wide angle at 26.5mm equiv once again. How about an actual general purpose lens at 35mm (or above 35mm) equiv for once? Some of the older iPhones were around 33mm if i recall things correctly, but all the (one lens) iPhones that now supports shooting DNG are stuck with a ~28mm lens.…

The second camera on the iPhone 7 Plus is ~58mm I believe, but it lacks OIS and the lens is a slower f2.8.

You're right, that's why I wrote

> (one lens) iPhones

:)

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by akavel »

ClassyJacket wrote: post #161
akavel wrote: post #86

I'm curious what exactly will the "haptic touch" technology of the dial be? Do you know of any consumer-grade products with (hopefully) non-buzzer haptic feedback on touchscreen available on the market yet?

The iPhone. Scroll a selector wheel, like a date picker, on an iPhone 7. It's very impressive.

Don't have one; could you describe in some more detail how it works, or link to some info on the web?

edit: for now, main google results are "how to disable haptic feedback on iphone 7" -- huh?

edit 2: ok, found some basic info: http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/09/27/inside-the-iphone-...

So, from what I understand, still a buzzer, only much more precise, controllable and subtle (?). Still not clear if the Kodak's gonna be the same, or something more interesting.

edit 3: eh, based on http://www.trustedreviews.com/kodak-ektra-review, I believe it's just a buzzer in Kodak too: "There’s a little bit of haptic feedback as you rotate the dial to give it some tangibility." So, nothing to write home about, I think.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by provemewrong »

jake-low wrote: post #41

Odd choice for the name, since Kodak also has a color negative film called "Ektar" [0] which is just a single transposition away from this new phone's name. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ektar

Yeah, honestly it sounds like a misspelling.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by Angostura »

mgalka wrote: post #152
astrocat wrote: post #93

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

If by "phone" you mean "pocket computer with native apps and a slick UI," then I agree, Kodak will probably suck as a "phone." Otherwise, I can't imagine the phone part could be that much worse than Apple.

In what way. Functions fine for me

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by unwind »

I had to look up the SoC used, it's MediaTek's Helio X20 with ten cores: http://mediatek-helio.com/x20/. The cores are:

    2x Cortex-A72 @ 2.1GHz ~ 2.3GHz
    4x Cortex-A53 @ 1.85GHz
    4x Cortex-A53 @ 1.4GHz
That sure is a lot of cores (and the rest of the features sound nice too, like the support for a 32 megapixel camera). Quite the impressive piece of technology to put in a phone-sized form factor, really.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by Endy »

userbinator wrote: post #143
astrocat wrote: post #93

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

I wonder how many people actually use their smartphone more as an actual mobile phone than as a camera, laptop replacement, navigation aid, or whatever else. Given what these little computers are mostly used for, I wish the term PDA, or Personal Digital Assistant, would come back into popularity.

My phone calls and texts. I'm sure that Android can do more. I deleted every program I could delete. If I could make it so there were two big buttons - one that said "PHONE" and the other that says "TEXT" on my homescreen without adding a widget, downloading a program, etc., I would. My iPad is a tablet computer and serves in that capacity. My main computer is my laptop.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by viraptor »

cft wrote: post #148
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a neat idea: a smartphone, with a great camera, that doubles as a recharging brick. For itself. So basically a high-end smartphone like we have today that isn't "Half a millimetre thinner TM" but a full centimetre thicker . Now that would be innovative!

Another one would be a 6" slider with a decent keyboard, like the original Droid. There are people actually composing serious documents on the go (e.g. lawyers, journalists), that would love it

So basically like n900... I miss it so much.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by viraptor »

unwind wrote: post #175

I had to look up the SoC used, it's MediaTek's Helio X20 with ten cores : http://mediatek-helio.com/x20/ . The cores are: 2x Cortex-A72 @ 2.1GHz ~ 2.3GHz 4x Cortex-A53 @ 1.85GHz 4x Cortex-A53 @ 1.4GHz That sure is a lot of cores (and the rest of the features sound nice too, like the support for a 32 megapixel camera). Quite the impressive piece of technology to put in a phone-sized form factor, really.

Looks like a great opportunity for switching them off to get extra power saving. I haven't seen this used before - is there any known phone with mixed frequency cores on the market?

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by cooper12 »

viraptor wrote: post #178
unwind wrote: post #175

I had to look up the SoC used, it's MediaTek's Helio X20 with ten cores : http://mediatek-helio.com/x20/ . The cores are: 2x Cortex-A72 @ 2.1GHz ~ 2.3GHz 4x Cortex-A53 @ 1.85GHz 4x Cortex-A53 @ 1.4GHz That sure is a lot of cores (and the rest of the features sound nice too, like the support for a 32 megapixel camera). Quite the impressive piece of technology to put in a phone-sized form factor, really.

Looks like a great opportunity for switching them off to get extra power saving. I haven't seen this used before - is there any known phone with mixed frequency cores on the market?

The latest iPhone 's A10 processor has two high performance cores and two high efficiency cores that it switches between. The concept is also predated by ARM's big.LITTLE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_big.LITTLE and the article lists some implementations.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by catwell »

pjmlp wrote: post #165
astrocat wrote: post #93

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

> Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. Given that outside US and a few other countries they have a market share around 20%, and most of those countries use pre-paid mobile phones, I think there are plenty of opportunities there.

But how much market share do they have among people likely to buy expensive digital photography equipment?
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