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From the car purchase page, it seems that they are charging an additional $13,200 (combining the addons Enhanced Autopilot and Full Self Driving capability at $7,900 and $5,300 respectively) for the full experience: https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/models/design
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I laughed out loud when I googled "tsla" after watching the video and the top headline in the news section of the google results was "Analyst doubts the new move by Tesla Motors." Clicking on the article for humor's value, I continued to read: > However, Edmunds.com, Inc. analyst Jessica Caldwell questions the value of purchasing a self-driving car before regulations catch up. Caldwell said that, meanwhile, competito…
>It's just hilarious the contortions of logic people will go to in order to put Musk down. I see the opposite Musk seems to be the new Steve Jobs people are crazy over him and seem to think he can do no wrong.
I wonder how this will compare against geohotz' comma.ai aftermarket self driving kit that he promises to ship by end of year. He calls his company's technology level 3, which is more like autopilot, as opposed to level 4, which is a fully autonomous self driving car e.g. Google's. Does Tesla aim to eventually have a fully autonomous self driving car?
With respect to your second question, yes. Tesla does aim to eventually have a fully autonomous SDC, and have stated it innumerable times.
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I too would like to see these videos.
It's not just self-driving cars. It's features like autonomous parking, lane-assitance, cruise control that automatically keeps the distance to the car in front of you and the like. Stuff like that has been repeatedly hailed by HN'ers as revolutionary when Tesla introduced it. Neglecting that other companies had those features for years. Whenever Tesla is the topic it's almost guaranteed every negative comment on HN…
They drove 50 miles on a fairly challenging road and recorded the number of times they had to grab the steering wheel. BMW and Mercedes were twice as often, infiniti about 3 times.
The #2 BMW "City streets also foil this equipment; occasionally the BMW lost the trail on clearly marked straight sections of pavement for no obvious reason at all."
The Tesla (with driving hardware 2 revisions ago, and software at least on revision ago) "the Tesla Model S locks onto the path ahead with a cruise missile’s determination and your hands resting on your lap.","The Tesla’s Autosteer performance can be distinguished from our other contenders by two words: no wobbling.", and "This system rises well above parlor-trick status to beg your use in daily driving.", "to Tesla’s credit, this is the only car capable of hands-free lane changes.", and " but by tallying only 29 interruptions in 50 miles, Tesla’s Autopilot app lives in a class of one."
So do other companies have lane following and related features... yes. Do they do as well as Tesla, not from what I've seen.
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> It's just hilarious the contortions of logic people will go to in order to put Musk down. As much as I anticipate more cool stuff from Tesla, one could say the same about akin-ness of people to find everything that Tesla does "super innovative" and "revolutionary" while the same features already existed in other cars for quite some time. I actually laughed out loud when I saw the Headline of this submission "Tesla…
I found this to be impressive because it seems to be working without LIDAR and performing very well. I may be wrong but most other contemporary cars that drive this well use expensive laser sensors
Cameras are cheap and I suspect the 12 cameras have overlap to help with depth perception and maybe even fault tolerances. I suspect as soon as LIDAR becomes a better solution for the price (if that happens) that Tesla will use them. Or maybe a hybrid of both so they can use the strengths of both as needed.
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Nobody would be developing mass-market self-driving cars right now if not for Musk.
That's ridiculous. My 2+ year old Mercedes self drives on the freeway quite nicely. They do require I keep my hands on the wheel, but other than that, it's doing the driving. Other manufacturers aren't simply responding to Elan.
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Noone wants to have the first headline of "Massive multideath accident involving kindergardeners caused by software glitch" attached to their brand. Particularily not German carmakers who both emphasize how pleaseant and exciting it is to manually drive their vehicles ("Fahrvergnügen", "Vorsprung durch Technik", "Freude am Fahren"), but also use passenger safety as a major selling point.
Sure, but with the data connection in their cars, they could have attached sensors and started uploading. However, this would mean adding sensors and 12 years ago, these would have cost much more along with the data requirements.
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Of course, Tesla acts like it owns that data. Their privacy policy permits them to monitor your vehicle unless you opt out. But there's no reason you can't download that data yourself, if you can figure out how to do so. Does anybody make an antenna-level middle box for GSM phones? Something you hook into the antenna cable as a firewall/monitor?
Does this mean that Tesla owners could band together and sell all this massively valuable data to Google?
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> Take Tesla 3 pre-orders, for instance. Tesla spins 400,000 pre-orders for a car that you might not receive in the next three years as the most amazing innovation in automobile manufacturing. Because it kind of is when we're talking about an electric car. Tesla's competitors can't come up with those numbers for EVs combined (even with hybrids). GM is expected to make 30,000 Bolts for next year, for instance (and it…
Level 5 is unachievable and unnecessary. There will always be some small number of locales that confound the system. But if you can't use autonomy a few times per year, who cares? When we get to level 4 the game is over, it's just an adoption curve at that point.
Isn't this hackernews?? So many "but what if this and that and this..." & "and yeah let's see if it can handle X & Y" This is the iPhone 1 of self-driving cars! That's akin to saying Apple should have waited to release their phone until iPhone 7 "because of this & that & this..." Don't we have to start somewhere ?? Aren't there supposed to be a big user base here who understands that it's an evolutionary process - we…