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The Strange and Sudden Disappearance of a Coding Bootcamp Founder

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I went through General Assembly's Web Development Immersive 2 years ago. I have made good use of what I have learned in that program; however, I would be reluctant to recommend that everyone should take it. It really depends on how much of your own time you are willing to invest in learning the material. I had 1 year of some web development experience at that point, so I was familiar with some of the material and did…

Most of that sounds positive, actually. So I'd be curious as to what the basis for your net negative take was.

I'll bite. The negative aspects, to me, were ultimately minor in my experience but consequential for a lot of the students.

This might have changed, but if you had the money, they will take you in. There is an interview process that they use to screen applicants, but my impression is that if you can pay, you get in.

This creates issues where there are students that are heavily invested in a successful outcome but might not have the ability to grasp the material. I tried helping some of my colleagues but some of them just could not grasp the material and it was hard for me understand what obstructed their ability to do so.

It might have been a confidence thing ("I don't get this and I never will"), but again, failure was encouraged in the program.

Additionally, there were issues that occurred due to a lack of diversity in race and gender. I do not want to get into it because it's really complicated and I lack the ability and the time to give this a fair evaluation. The gist of it is: General Assembly facilitated open dialogue but not all of the participants wanted to participate. I will leave it at that.

Halfway through the program, we had a teacher give pretty uninspiring lessons. The subject matter wasn't super dry or uninteresting (it was on SQL and relational databases); my feeling was that the teacher had some personal issues that were affecting his work.

This sucked more for the people that had zero background in development because he was poorly teaching crucial material and none of the students were feeling it. A lot of the students complained about this and he started turning around after that.

I also get the feeling that there was some "drama" in the inner workings of General Assembly. The director of our cohort quit towards the end of our immersive (week 10 out of a 12 week program); she was basically the one that ran the show and made sure that our needs for learning were met.

From my understanding, she was fired because of student complaints. She was very personable and very protective of the students so I feel like there must have been some pressure from above.

Re: The Strange and Sudden Disappearance of a Coding Bootcamp Founder

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went through General Assembly's Web Development Immersive 2 years ago. I have made good use of what I have learned in that program; however, I would be reluctant to recommend that everyone should take it. It really depends on how much of your own time you are willing to invest in learning the material. I had 1 year of some web development experience at that point, so I was familiar with some of the material and did…

Wait, web dev in ASM? That sounds cool but not very hireable...

I'm not sure what you are asking here. Can you elaborate?

The bootcamp was called General Assembly (https://generalassemb.ly/).

Re: The Strange and Sudden Disappearance of a Coding Bootcamp Founder

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It sounds like the investment paid off, but if you don't mind me asking, what did the bootcamp cost?

My SO went through a similar setup as the one described by the grandparent. Hers was ~15k, maybe up to ~17k by the end of the day, considering food and whatnot. I can't speak for her, but from my perception, the investment seems to have paid off: she's now working at a much lower stress level than before (her previous job was in high stress environment) and her salary and benefits (vacation time, perks like company-p…

Interesting that I got downvoted for this. Oh well.

Re: The Strange and Sudden Disappearance of a Coding Bootcamp Founder

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Has anyone done a coding bootcamp? With the plethora of relatively cheap/free resources out there from Universities, to professional institutions, all the way to YouTube, what is the appeal? Do the certifications count for anything to hiring managers? Do you need someone to kick you in the ass on a daily basis to keep moving? Do you need the higher touch Q&A thats not available in Forums/StackOverflow type places?

Former student here, left before the instructor disappeared. Prior to joining, I had been learning to code on my own for 2 years and was 4-5 months into my first development job.

The only reason why I signed up for this bootcamp is because it promised 50 private pair programming sessions with a mentor, one that I thought was a "seasoned programmer", which turned out to be fake. It was either that or Code Mentor's Long-Term membership option. With the private sessions and group sessions which didn't count towards the 50, I assumed I would be getting a better deal.

Other than one on one feedback and mentoring, maybe if you need a more structured curriculum and you are a complete beginner to the world and you would rather pay someone than stumble around for a bit until you learn the basics, a bootcamp would be a good option.

Re: The Strange and Sudden Disappearance of a Coding Bootcamp Founder

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Most of that sounds positive, actually. So I'd be curious as to what the basis for your net negative take was.

I'll bite. The negative aspects, to me, were ultimately minor in my experience but consequential for a lot of the students. This might have changed, but if you had the money, they will take you in. There is an interview process that they use to screen applicants, but my impression is that if you can pay, you get in. This creates issues where there are students that are heavily invested in a successful outcome but mig…

Yup - education is hard; sounds like GA is still figuring this out. Thanks for the data points.
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