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Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by devb »

astrocat wrote: post #136
imaginenore wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a photographer, I want to correct you. Camera sensors are good, actually amazing for their sizes. What sucks is the lens + the sensor size combination. On most phones you get a fixed wideangle lens, some phones have two lenses, some have sucky zooms (Galaxy S4 Zoom). None of them come even close to a cheap DSLR/mirrorless with large sensors. All 100% of the phone cameras suck in low light. Yes, even the latest iPh…

Believe me, I know. I carry my D3300 on all my vacations - it's the cheap, entry level DSLR for people like me who want to take better pictures but don't want to invest thousands in high level cameras. Or training ;) But I am like head-over-heels for my 50mm prime. That aside, that's not really the point at hand. The hypothesis is that there is still a value desert between smartphone cameras and DSLRs that isn't adeq…

Camera bodies aren't what you want to be investing in anyway; it's lenses. After a few years the body is basically disposable as far as resale value is concerned, if the body is even still working. Today's entry level cameras are miles ahead of what the pro cameras were ten years ago.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by sjm »

pauljaworski wrote: post #135
exelius wrote: post #10

Didn't Nokia try this already? I'm pretty sure the camera world has settled into two kinds of cameras: cell phones for people who just need to take a few snaps, and DSLRs for people who need more features than can possibly fit in a cameraphone (flash hotshoe, changeable lenses, larger sensor, etc). DSLRs are cheap enough that cost isn't really an issue. I doubt the results here will be any better than Nokia had.

Compact mirrorless cameras are the big third category you're missing, I think. They're the perfect mix of quality, portability, and discreetness, which makes them excellent for travel and street photography. The Fuji X series are great examples. I wouldn't dream of taking my Canon 6D backpacking, but my X100T goes with me everywhere and produces excellent shots. My Instagram handle is @paulwithap if you want to see s…

Agreed! I used to have a Nikon D7000, which isn't even that big when it comes to DSLRs, but it was too heavy and too big and I ended up basically never taking it out, sometimes even while traveling.

About two years ago I got a Fuji X-T1 and it's honestly one of the best things I've ever bought. It's small, light enough, amazingly built, their lenses are incredible, and it's just so functional. The WiFi functionality is awesome because with only my phone I can transfer pictures and post on Instagram while traveling. The straight out of camera JPEGs are so good I never do any editing.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by userbinator »

astrocat wrote: post #93

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

I wonder how many people actually use their smartphone more as an actual mobile phone than as a camera, laptop replacement, navigation aid, or whatever else. Given what these little computers are mostly used for, I wish the term PDA, or Personal Digital Assistant, would come back into popularity.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by ryanSrich »

noahmbarr wrote: post #99
astrocat wrote: post #93

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

You have to applaud Kodak for taking a risk. If the camera functionality is that much better, some customer segment might be compelled. It's hard to say until the product is available. Future iPhone customers will benefit from this product release. If it's at all better, you better believe this will only push Apple's camera engineering team harder.

It's Kodak. They don't have much to lose. I wouldn't necessarily call it a risk.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by colordrops »

userbinator wrote: post #143
astrocat wrote: post #93

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

I wonder how many people actually use their smartphone more as an actual mobile phone than as a camera, laptop replacement, navigation aid, or whatever else. Given what these little computers are mostly used for, I wish the term PDA, or Personal Digital Assistant, would come back into popularity.

> I wish the term PDA, or Personal Digital Assistant, would come back into popularity.

Good idea. I'm going to try that and see what happens.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by cft »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #134
Theodores wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is the key insight here, particularly when you see what other branded gadgets this Bullitt Group have, Kodak have just become a brand name that can be licensed by third parties. There is no connection to the Kodak we know, impetus came from outside. It seems that Bullitt can innovate, their camera-phone for Caterpillar has some thermal imaging aspect to it. Here I think they have gone for nostalgia with the name…

Here's a neat idea: a smartphone, with a great camera, that doubles as a recharging brick. For itself. So basically a high-end smartphone like we have today that isn't "Half a millimetre thinner TM" but a full centimetre thicker . Now that would be innovative!

Another one would be a 6" slider with a decent keyboard, like the original Droid. There are people actually composing serious documents on the go (e.g. lawyers, journalists), that would love it

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by tux1968 »

astrocat wrote: post #93

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

According to the IDC[1] iPhone currently has less that 12% of the overall market. While that might represent a larger percentage of people who care about photography, there appears to still be a very large potential market for this.

[1] http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by piyush_soni »

astrocat wrote: post #93

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

> Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras

You meant Google Pixels are ... (latest iPhone is not even in the top 3 groups of smartphone cameras)

Source: https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Pixel-smartphone-camera-revi...

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