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Re: Google Removes http:// from Chrome

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post #32

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The functional confusion stems from the modification of basic copy/paste, not from the removal of data from the address bar.

Oh -- still, that doesn't seem like something that can't be fixed with minor tweaking.

code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=41609

is an example where there's a hard problem that materializes out of thin air as a result.

Re: Google Removes http:// from Chrome

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post #38
post #34

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Not really www.foo.com is distinct from foo.com. http:// is pretty redundant - you usually only want to specify the protocol if its not http.

I doubt that the "average" person would realize that foo.com is different from www.foo.com — or that they could even be different.

But they would probably see abc.foo.com as different from xyz.foo.com

Re: Google Removes http:// from Chrome

#43
post #24

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Understood, but I hear that that doesn't work on, say, Linux. I don't know who's to blame, nor do I care.

Yeah, except it works fine on Linux. Nothing to do you with your beloved OSX.

I just updated the 41609 with one more way of how it does not work on Linux.

Re: Google Removes http:// from Chrome

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post #33
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Considering how much is abstracted from the user these days, I've always wondered why something as technical and meaningless to the average user like " http:// hasn't been removed before. Good move I say.

What would you say about "www.", then? Shouldn't that be removed as meaningless, as opposed to the protocol prefix which a) identifies something as a URL, b) makes it detectable and parseable?

Well that's not really up to the browser maker to remove. The domain owner makes choices about subdomains and dns records. So if the domain owner deems www as the location for something, that can't be abstracted away.

Re: Google Removes http:// from Chrome

#45
post #34

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Not really www.foo.com is distinct from foo.com. http:// is pretty redundant - you usually only want to specify the protocol if its not http.

Omitting the http prefix breaks the links (makes them relative) in some contexts, like some blog comments. I think people should learn about the http prefix anyway. Even our grandmas. To do that, the best we can do is to let it appear in the url bar.

But we're not talking about removing http:// from actual urls, just from the display in the address bar. I guess you're saying that seeing it in the address bar highlights that it's an important part of an actual url, which is useful for education?

Re: Google Removes http:// from Chrome

#47
I've already been bitten from this change a half-dozen times. Every time I want to share with someone an url I have open in chromium now, I have to manually type "http://.

Hopefully they will eventually fix it so copying from the location bar will include the full url. (Complicated of course by the fact that a user may only copy part of the url, leaving off eg "?foo")

Re: Google Removes http:// from Chrome

#48
post #39

Good move, overall. Every browser I know of automatically inserts the http:// and has for some time now. Removing the visual component of this just completes the abstraction that's already there. The author suggests replacing the string of text with an icon, like RSS. But the RSS icon quickly went from "standard" to "indecipherable clusterfuck" in practice. http://images.google.com/images?q=rss%20icons

The "http:// has been replaced by an icon. I suspect it's supposed to be a small planet earth icon, but the color choice makes it look like the moon, and the continent placement makes it look like a squinty smiley face when viewed from a few feet away.

Icons.. feh.

Re: Google Removes http:// from Chrome

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post #47

I've already been bitten from this change a half-dozen times. Every time I want to share with someone an url I have open in chromium now, I have to manually type " http:// . Hopefully they will eventually fix it so copying from the location bar will include the full url. (Complicated of course by the fact that a user may only copy part of the url, leaving off eg "?foo")

I was under the impression that copying from the location bar was supposed to include the http://. If it doesn't, that is a pretty strange oversight.

Re: Google Removes http:// from Chrome

#50
post #38

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I doubt that the "average" person would realize that foo.com is different from www.foo.com — or that they could even be different.

But they would probably see abc.foo.com as different from xyz.foo.com

The www. prefix is a special case for people; it literally means "its the world wide web" or "its the internet" to them. Technically, the subdomain is irrelevant. But, most people don't know this. They don't know how the internet works and (I'd suspect that this is true in more cases than you might think), think that www. is needed to get to whatever site they want to visit.

Of course, this is all assuming that they even type the address in, rather then searching.

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