Basically if anyone you don't know in real life asks you money this is a huge red flag. Like red flag of all red flags. People should condition themselves that once they reach their pockets for money then something is wrong, stop immediately and reevaluate. I understand that scammers sometimes are very good and you don't need to paranoid towards people, but once real money is involved your guard must go up!
I went to Nigeria to meet a man who scammed me
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Re: I went to Nigeria to meet a man who scammed me
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
I imagine she has almost certainly not met anyone in person, that's how these scams work.
I don't know what are "those" scams but many scammers go very far, as far as giving you their cellphone number that works and they pick up, and even meet you in person. There are youtube videos of scammers meeting people and then called out on lie they just leave. I would assume if she paid so much and still have money, she is priobably on scammers vip list so I wouldn't be suprised if multiple "lawyers" and other sc…
Re: I went to Nigeria to meet a man who scammed me
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure about the start-up analogy here, but it seems a good idea to me to encourage your mother-in-law to pay a visit to her supposed romantic interest.
What I mean by the analogy is that people outside of the startup can have the same feeling about the startup entrepreneur (e.g. thinking they've been mired up in a scam.) the difference is there isn't one in the startup case. So do something - like visit the love interest - that differentiates between these cases.
I know someone in a similar situation. She's been abroad to see her "love" in Egypt regularly, and he's very attentive when she's there.
Of course they're planning to get married.
Of course it's love. What else would it be?
Works on guys too. I know someone else who has given rather a lot of money to an East European woman. I don't think they'll ever meet, because most East European women in these scams are actually criminal gangs. But we'll see.
Also, it's worth considering that these scams are marketing funnels designed to select the most gullible people and filter out everyone else. So the victims are self-selecting, because the scams are designed to find people with their particular psychological weaknesses.
Re: I went to Nigeria to meet a man who scammed me
#144Nigeria is #1 / #2 wealthiest country in Africa (GDP). It ranks amoung the highest in terms of advanced degree graduates in Africa. But it has a extremely low Human Development Index, there isn't much opportunity for the educated. Nigerians outside of Nigeria will generally be better educated than the local workforce but unable find work for various reasons. Common issue in Europe, where many 419 scams actually opera…
What's the Gini coefficient on that GDP?
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#145My mother in law is currently $150,000+ deep on a Facebook romance scam. I believe she's about to send him another $200k or so when her house is sold. Instead of living out her retirement in relative comfort, she will be scraping by on social security. Adult services can't help, because moonshot-level stupidity is not a mental disorder. She can't live with us, as she can no longer be trusted. She can't live on her ow…
Is the scammer in the US our outside of it? If he is in the US, can you press charges? If he is outside of the US, can she articulate the wedding plans in more detail? Has she looked into immigration law and things like that? Does she have a passport? Have they met? If not, how does she intend on meeting him? Which country are they going to get married in - and will the marriage be legal both places? I mean, I met my…
Not sure where he is located. She says that she met him for dinner twice in one week. At that point, I think she had given him $90k, so even if he was not local, the incentive to fly out for a week would be pretty high. As for plans, they are characteristically nebulous and not well thought-out.
I don't think 'thinking realistically' is going to help. When his VoIP number gets shut down, he messages her and says he got a new number "because his old phone got smashed". When I point out that you don't get a new number when your phone breaks, she shrugs. I showed her an outline of the scam and it matched her situation exactly. I showed her news articles (like this one), I pointed out obvious lies. I wish I could reason my way out of this, but I don't think that's the case.
EDIT: as for laws that help people out -> Not that I know of. You can consolidate accrued debt, but that's it.
Re: I went to Nigeria to meet a man who scammed me
#146Internet scams are a big problem both within and outside the country. Part of the problem is that local law enforcement agents do not have the manpower and technical know-how to tackle the problem.
I'm deeply sorry for those of you whose loved ones have lost money to these scammers.
I'll be hanging around to answer any questions that may be of help.
Re: I went to Nigeria to meet a man who scammed me
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Motherfucker, thats called a job!
For everyone who hasn't realised this is a Key & Peele sketch, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly33QgeDphw
Re: I went to Nigeria to meet a man who scammed me
#148My mother in law is currently $150,000+ deep on a Facebook romance scam. I believe she's about to send him another $200k or so when her house is sold. Instead of living out her retirement in relative comfort, she will be scraping by on social security. Adult services can't help, because moonshot-level stupidity is not a mental disorder. She can't live with us, as she can no longer be trusted. She can't live on her ow…
Have you considered that your mother probably has all the information necessary to impersonate you and acquire debt on your credit?
Re: I went to Nigeria to meet a man who scammed me
#149My mother in law is currently $150,000+ deep on a Facebook romance scam. I believe she's about to send him another $200k or so when her house is sold. Instead of living out her retirement in relative comfort, she will be scraping by on social security. Adult services can't help, because moonshot-level stupidity is not a mental disorder. She can't live with us, as she can no longer be trusted. She can't live on her ow…
Why don't you or family scam her first, and then give the money back slowly? The thing about Nigerian 419 scammers is that , like most companies, the people you deal with are low wage call center employees, not the ringleaders who get the profit
Re: I went to Nigeria to meet a man who scammed me
#150Nigeria is #1 / #2 wealthiest country in Africa (GDP). It ranks amoung the highest in terms of advanced degree graduates in Africa. But it has a extremely low Human Development Index, there isn't much opportunity for the educated. Nigerians outside of Nigeria will generally be better educated than the local workforce but unable find work for various reasons. Common issue in Europe, where many 419 scams actually opera…
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_G...