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It's not enforceable, so why demand it Tesla? Nothing more annoying than a company that starts to overstep boundaries.. Stay out of my personal decisions.
Could they buy data from Lyft/Uber/etc and cross-check it with their cars' paths?
My bet is that this is more because of legal reasons than business model reasons (though of course Tesla wants a piece of that pie)
A few people here have mentioned maybe Telsa just want to stop Uber/Lyft buying a bunch of Telsas and operating an autonomous fleet. My questions is - why would Tesla want to stop them doing that? The goal is to transition the world to sustainable transport, ASAP. If companies are buying tens of thousands of their cars, that's great! I have to wonder if Tesla want to stop this because they want to make the profit fro…
A few people here have mentioned maybe Telsa just want to stop Uber/Lyft buying a bunch of Telsas and operating an autonomous fleet. My questions is - why would Tesla want to stop them doing that? The goal is to transition the world to sustainable transport, ASAP. If companies are buying tens of thousands of their cars, that's great! I have to wonder if Tesla want to stop this because they want to make the profit fro…
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Oh it's not about Tesla building compatibility into their software. If that was necessary, then they wouldn't need to issue a warning to Teslas owners telling them not to drive for Uber/Lyft. What matters is how Tesla will respond when someone inevitably figures out a way to automate Uber/Lyft rides without needing any help from Tesla. If their response is merely, "Okay, but we're not responsible for damages," then t…
But saying "Okay, but we're not responsible for damages" will not fly with regulators, legislators, public opinion or the integrity of their brand. If someone modifies their Tesla to accept input from Uber, and Tesla does nothing to stop them, and it causes a crash or other problems, then there'll be headlines ("Tesla self-driving car stops in middle of highway!"), technology-ignorant bureaucrats will clamp down on s…
What happens when they, say, strike a deal with McDonald's and ban drivers from going to Burger King locations? It sounds far-fetched, but I don't see any difference. Where we take our cars and why should not be Tesla's business.
A few people here have mentioned maybe Telsa just want to stop Uber/Lyft buying a bunch of Telsas and operating an autonomous fleet. My questions is - why would Tesla want to stop them doing that? The goal is to transition the world to sustainable transport, ASAP. If companies are buying tens of thousands of their cars, that's great! I have to wonder if Tesla want to stop this because they want to make the profit fro…
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It's very important to realize that this is a problem that our generation will have to fix, or it will never be fixed. To us, this seems completely unnatural, because we've spent so many years in a world where this type of tech could be truly "owned." However, future generations born in the world of today will be totally accustomed to renting/licensing everything. They won't have the same fiery indignation that we do…
If the next generation will be fine with it, why fix it? Doesn't that just mean that we're our grandfathers, clinging to "the good old days" when we could own stuff?
I would add, though, that whether the next generation accepts it or not is not really the problem. It won't likely be viewed as a positive thing, whether they accept it or not. Why should the next generation have to accept something that is a net negative for them, just because the current generation has decided for them that it's how it's going to be?
You can't do what you want, with a car you buy - even though this does not mean that it will be a lot cheaper :/ I'm more than willing to agree to this concept, if for example, Tesla sends me a new top of the line model 3/s/x every year for around 5k-ish/yr - At that price point, I feel that they can tell me what I can / can't do with "their" car. However, now, they expect people to pay the full price of the car (any…
Just to clarify, in the true meaning of the word "own", you never owned your house, and that goes to at least post WW2 times.
If you believe you own your house simply because its paid off, then try not to pay property tax imposed on you by the county you live in. But don't be surprised if one year later Sheriff shows up at your "own" house doorstep with eviction team.
A few people here have mentioned maybe Telsa just want to stop Uber/Lyft buying a bunch of Telsas and operating an autonomous fleet. My questions is - why would Tesla want to stop them doing that? The goal is to transition the world to sustainable transport, ASAP. If companies are buying tens of thousands of their cars, that's great! I have to wonder if Tesla want to stop this because they want to make the profit fro…
Tesla made this software. They spent years planning, designing, and working on it. Uber have a scheduling app.
Frankly I'm all for this. Tesla is a MUCH better company than Uber. Let them take the ridesharing market and our world will be much better off.
I had a similar reaction (as in the article) when I read the Tesla feature explanation initially. But, later I realized Tesla is not overstepping the boundary. Here's why I think so: Tesla is setting the correct expectations. Once the car is fully autonomous, the process of dispatching rides to a pickup location will be controlled by Tesla. So, if you own the car, and but are not needing the car to be used for a week…
Once the car is fully autonomous, the process of dispatching rides to a pickup location will be controlled by Tesla. But if that's the case, then I will not pay thousands of dollars to own one.
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But saying "Okay, but we're not responsible for damages" will not fly with regulators, legislators, public opinion or the integrity of their brand. If someone modifies their Tesla to accept input from Uber, and Tesla does nothing to stop them, and it causes a crash or other problems, then there'll be headlines ("Tesla self-driving car stops in middle of highway!"), technology-ignorant bureaucrats will clamp down on s…
We're not talking about modifying the self-driving algorithms. I assume those are a totally closed black box. We're merely talking about inputting destination addresses. What Tesla is saying with this no-Uber rule is, "This is where you can and cannot go." What happens when they, say, strike a deal with McDonald's and ban drivers from going to Burger King locations? It sounds far-fetched, but I don't see any differen…
And I don't think they'll ever ban people from going to places - as long as you use approved Tesla tools to request that destination.