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Re: Mark Zuckerburg comments on Peter Thiel controversy regarding Trump donation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What is it with you US-people and 2 candidates?!?! It's the natural consequence of a plurality voting system. Conservatives remember H. Ross Perot spoiling the election for George H.W. Bush, and throwing the election to Bill Clinton. Progressives remember Ralph Nader making the contest between Al Gore and George W. Bush close enough that G.W. was given the election by a Supreme Court stocked with his dad's buddies.…

My personal feeling is that this country desperately needs to move past plurality voting. The easiest path to this is for states to apportion their electors based on ranked choice voting. It doesn't solve all our problems, but it does remove the spoiler effect. With luck, that would allow us to have less shrill, more substantive candidates--even if the major parties continue to dominate. I think you've made some insi…

It is currently difficult to defend the US in Europe with "nearly half of the population supporting.." I think this claim has to be put in context of the political 2 party system. We have had populist candidates in many European countries. Generally their support reaches max 15-20%. The number of people attracted by populist candidates is probably pretty constant in the West. It is highly likely that the numbers would be similar in the US if there was multiple political parties.

Re: Mark Zuckerburg comments on Peter Thiel controversy regarding Trump donation

#53
Zuckerburg should elevate the conversation. Accusations are not proven leave the sexism out. Knowing Hillary's Campaign staffs comments about Catholics, gays, blacks, hispanics and etc. demeaning comments provides a springboard for free and fair political speech. Zuckerburg is proving himself to be low minded and poorly educated pertaining to our constitutional rights provided centuries past from high minded genius founding fathers.

Re: Mark Zuckerburg comments on Peter Thiel controversy regarding Trump donation

#54
Zuckerburg should elevate the conversation. Accusations are not proven leave the sexism out. Knowing Hillary's Campaign staffs comments about Catholics, gays, blacks, hispanics and etc. demeaning comments provides a springboard for free and fair political speech. Zuckerburg is proving himself to be low minded and poorly educated pertaining to our constitutional rights provided centuries past from high minded genius founding fathers.

Re: Mark Zuckerburg comments on Peter Thiel controversy regarding Trump donation

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It seems to be a typical postmodern viewpoint that every idea is equally valid. But even if you're not "racist, sexist, xenophobic, or accepting sexual assault", if you, as a reasonably minded individual, back Trump, you're condoning all of these things, which is really just as bad ... Not everybody's idea is valid!

Re: Mark Zuckerburg comments on Peter Thiel controversy regarding Trump donation

#57

It seems to be a typical postmodern viewpoint that every idea is equally valid. But even if you're not "racist, sexist, xenophobic, or accepting sexual assault", if you, as a reasonably minded individual, back Trump, you're condoning all of these things, which is really just as bad ... Not everybody's idea is valid!

that's just your opinion and I feel bad that I'm voting for the same candidate as someone like you who doesn't tolerate other people's political choices.

Re: Mark Zuckerburg comments on Peter Thiel controversy regarding Trump donation

#58

It seems to be a typical postmodern viewpoint that every idea is equally valid. But even if you're not "racist, sexist, xenophobic, or accepting sexual assault", if you, as a reasonably minded individual, back Trump, you're condoning all of these things, which is really just as bad ... Not everybody's idea is valid!

that's just your opinion and I feel bad that I'm voting for the same candidate as someone like you who doesn't tolerate other people's political choices.

This election season has been very difficult. We effectively have two choices for president. I imagine there are very few people whose values align perfectly with the candidate they're voting for. I hope we can all keep this in mind, both now and after the election.

Each voter has to figure out where to best cast their vote, compromising some of their values for others they prioritize. One hopeful way to view this is that they're likely a lot of values we hold in common. These are things we can hopefully work on together.

* This is really a very general statement I've tried to keep in mind in reading all of these comments, not just this thread. It's placement isn't a reflection of my opinion of the immediately preceding comment or the one prior. It just had to be placed somewhere.

In the hopes of better communication, if you'd like to down vote this comment, will you also take the time to add a brief reply? I appreciate it.

Re: Mark Zuckerburg comments on Peter Thiel controversy regarding Trump donation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't be daft. The non-voters are the ones who don't care. They don't care about xenophobia doing its thing. They don't care that Hillary may be corrupt. They don't care about the fact that Trump wants to carry out extrajudicial killings of people who might be related to terrorists. They don't care he wants more extreme forms of torture than waterboarding. Get real the people who aren't voting probably would make the…

Or they have given up on voting for a shit sandwich vs a dirty douche. Either way you vote you lose. This covers a vast group of people in the united states. As George Carlin (loosely) said: If you voted for the people in power, you have no right to complain when they do things you dont like. You voted them in. I on the other hand... Did not vote for them and have every right to complain about the mess you made and I…

Love Carlin, but you can't make keeping your hands clean the main priority in life.

I raise you one Emerson: "The other terror that scares us from self-trust is our consistency; a reverence for our past act or word, because the eyes of others have no other data for computing our orbit than our past acts, and we are loath to disappoint them.

But why should you keep your head over your shoulder? Why drag about this corpse of your memory, lest you contradict somewhat you have stated in this or that public place? Suppose you should contradict yourself; what then?

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day.--'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.'--Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood."

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