All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

Post by celticninja » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 3:37 PM UTC

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> very large roads I've seen quite a few Google self driving cars on Castro in Mountain View. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/4939372588_47979bceec_z.... That picture doesn't do it justice during the most busy hours of the evening, where there's tons of people crossing and bicycles flying about in every direction. Given that, I've never seen a crowded street in Napoli or a crossroad in Ho-Chi Minh, but I can imag…

> Given that, I've never seen a crowded street in Napoli My three tests for self-driving cars would be: 1. Drive through Milan on a Saturday afternoon, from the outside of the city, and park on the opposite side of the centre of the city. 2. Drive through London during a weekday, similar thing... cross the centre and find a parking space and park. 3. Drive through Paris during a weekend, same deal. Those three cities…

Post by tcoppi » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 3:37 PM UTC

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Unfortunately this is really common on HN nowadays. What I find really interesting about Tesla (and SpaceX and HyperLoop) criticism is that people think it will fail for what it doesn't do , instead of focusing on what it does do. What they don't realize is that all products in history that got hugely successful didn't do a ton of stuff initially. They just did some things really well. Early washing machines were noi…

> Unfortunately this is really common on HN nowadays. I see things differently. Anyone who criticized Theranos was met with the same reaction, "Everyone on HN is so negative!" But the questions were valid. Look what happened. The same thing is occurring with Tesla. Yes, there is fantastic work being done, but many people here can't separate marketing from the real world. It's shocking, frankly.

Post by castratikron » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 3:38 PM UTC

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I wonder who decided/approved the use of a song about death and funeral procession (Paint it Black by The Rolling Stones) in a video about "driving" without hands on public roads...

Post by petra » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 3:39 PM UTC

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Isn't this hackernews?? So many "but what if this and that and this..." & "and yeah let's see if it can handle X & Y" This is the iPhone 1 of self-driving cars! That's akin to saying Apple should have waited to release their phone until iPhone 7 "because of this & that & this..." Don't we have to start somewhere ?? Aren't there supposed to be a big user base here who understands that it's an evolutionary process - we…

This is an area where it's easy to be too credulous. If you want "iPhone 1 of self-driving cars", Google has been tooling around in them for a while now. They do a great job under ideal conditions, on a sunny day. The future already happened! It simply isn't enough to post a video of a car driving in light traffic on a beautiful, California afternoon. That isn't what makes the problem hard. Mess up with your video-ba…

Post by spectrum1234 » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 3:39 PM UTC

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hipshaker wrote: post #570

Isn't this hackernews?? So many "but what if this and that and this..." & "and yeah let's see if it can handle X & Y" This is the iPhone 1 of self-driving cars! That's akin to saying Apple should have waited to release their phone until iPhone 7 "because of this & that & this..." Don't we have to start somewhere ?? Aren't there supposed to be a big user base here who understands that it's an evolutionary process - we…

Yeah but the first-gem iPhone couldn't kill people. A poorly-built car easily can. I like Tesla, just pointing out why people are right to demand they get it at least as good as humans before pushing it to market.