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All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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No bad, but it still needs to be taught to keep to the right. Unless this is how people normally drive in the US ?

In the US you stay in lane. Many other countries ban undertaking, but not the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtaking#Legal_status_by_cou...

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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It's sad how presenting such solid, undeniable evidence results in a downtrend in valuation: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-shares-just-took-dive-14...

It's still marketing... Tesla says "Autopilot" and has a lot of small print that says "This is not self-driving!". Google has a lot of research but has so far not made any jazzy "Self-driving cars are here!" claims or videos. And this video shows a sunny day on well-defined roads and low traffic. What about rain or snow?

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Interesting for two reasons: 1. It is a self driving car, it is so clearly the future, I wish it existed now, it is going to be awesome (in my opinion). 2. Despite knowing about and following news about driverless cars for a while, there was something surprisingly (to me) compelling about watching the video. It's like you get a little taste of the full A to B that it can give you (door to door). Who wants to speculat…

"It is a self driving car, it is so clearly the future, I wish it existed now, it is going to be awesome (in my opinion)." Even now, several years into the current news/development arc of self-driving cars, I still can't believe this is going to be the future. We're really never going to european (or japanese) style train networks ? We're really going to keep binging on roads ? We, as a nation of fat slobs [1] are re…

This! A million times this!

While self driving cars will do great things for people such as yourself (and overall I fully support their development/adoption), I also share the fear that it will prevent American urban centers from a desperately needed shift away from cars dependence in favor of better public transit and urban density. I really don't see the idea of every person in the country having their own personal transportation device (or even shared self-drivings car with something like uber) as a sustainable path for the US to continue down.

The technology for good transportation in/among major cities already exists: walking, biking, mass-transit, and high-speed rail. I wish Americans would be more open to these concepts rather than dismissing them in favor of the form of transit that has yielded nothing but horribly designed and polluted cities.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I look forward to having to insert and remove three car seats for every short trip... EDIT: By 'car seat' I mean a seat for an infant/toddler/child.

I don't understand. Why would you need to remove the seats?

"Car seat" in the US means an extra seat for infants that go on top of the car's native seat.

https://www.amazon.com/baby-infants-car-seats-booster/b?ie=U...

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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> "The person in the driver seat is only there for legal reasons" > Person gets out and let's car park itself But seriously the tech is very impressive. The journey was rather simple though, and didn't cover more difficult areas (inner city driving, heavy stop start traffic, roadblocks, road accidents and so on). I hope that Tesla test these things thoroughly because they've already got one death under their belt, it…

I don't think it's really fair to put it as dire as that, humans have more deaths, with similar miles, under their belts. Many people are starting to realize that's the real test, especially those likely to be model S/≡/X customers. Real consumer and public education on the nature of the problem is necessary though, especially if we want a safer self driving world.

That's not really true though is it? The human miles take into account all sorts of driving conditions, while self-driving car miles are only from the safest and easiest driving conditions. Doesn't seem apples to apples to me.

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Interesting for two reasons: 1. It is a self driving car, it is so clearly the future, I wish it existed now, it is going to be awesome (in my opinion). 2. Despite knowing about and following news about driverless cars for a while, there was something surprisingly (to me) compelling about watching the video. It's like you get a little taste of the full A to B that it can give you (door to door). Who wants to speculat…

"It is a self driving car, it is so clearly the future, I wish it existed now, it is going to be awesome (in my opinion)." Even now, several years into the current news/development arc of self-driving cars, I still can't believe this is going to be the future. We're really never going to european (or japanese) style train networks ? We're really going to keep binging on roads ? We, as a nation of fat slobs [1] are re…

People enjoy space and privacy.

And income inequality means that people can literally afford to pay for other people to not be near them as they travel.

Busses and trains and other mass transport will return when income inequality is reduced to the point where the amount it costs people to pay for their own space is no longer affordable for them, but if you're earning 500 times the person next to you, you'll happily pay what it takes for them to disappear.

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From 00:50 to 01:10, why is the car driving in the left lane, when the right lane is clearly not turning? It's strange to see this behaviour as someone living in Germany, where you are supposed to, by default, drive in the right lane if you are not overtaking another car or there is a traffic jam... EDIT: also, did it turn into the wrong lane at 2:25-2:30? is this a security risk?

You need to differentiate between highways and local streets. Highways the drive right lane thing is common. In a city street you often can and should drive in the lane based on your next turn. Driving in the right for 1 block then veering across 2 lanes to make a left turn at the next stop sign is no good.

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At just after 3.23, when the car is parking, it looks like that rear wheel is going to hit the curb, and then it suddenly cuts away to the next scene. Maybe there was enough turning angle to miss it, but I dunno...it looked pretty close to me.

Autopark works pretty flawlessly. I use it s couple of times pr week in my current gen Tesla. (Now old gen)

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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"The person in the driver seat is only there for legal reasons" - how do Tesla reconcile this with the "summon" feature? How can they market the summon feature and say the Tesla could find you on the other side of the country unless it has someone in the driving seat touching the steering wheel?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me play the devil's advocate here as well :) What exactly is the problem with punishing people for risky driving? Or rather, let them pay a corresponding premium to cover for the (statistically expected) higher damages they will cause? Keep in mind that driving behaviour is something the user has full control of, in contrast to e.g. disabilities, for which of course no insurance premium should be paid. I actually…

I suppose it's a similar argument as answering the question "why shouldn't sicker people pay way higher insurance premiums instead of driving up the average cost". For health insurance I think the pool of insured people to protect against black swan type problems is reasonable and ethical (it protects people with birth defects etc.). However for car insurances I feel like this argument doesn't hold as your driving be…

"I suppose it's a similar argument as answering the question "why shouldn't sicker people pay way higher insurance premiums instead of driving up the average cost"."

I don't think that is a good analogy ... many "sicker" people have played no role in their sickness which may not be related to behavior or decisions.

A better analogy would be: Why don't mountain climbers and scuba divers[1] pay higher insurance rates ?

I sort of think that they should, however I don't have a good answer as to what happens when an injured stunt skier is broke (and broken) ... do they get no medical care ?

[1] Or whatever - you get what I mean.

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