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All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Post by drzaiusapelord »

hacker_9 wrote: post #477

> "The person in the driver seat is only there for legal reasons" > Person gets out and let's car park itself But seriously the tech is very impressive. The journey was rather simple though, and didn't cover more difficult areas (inner city driving, heavy stop start traffic, roadblocks, road accidents and so on). I hope that Tesla test these things thoroughly because they've already got one death under their belt, it…

>(inner city driving, heavy stop start traffic, roadblocks, road accidents and so on

Yeah this. Every demo I've seen is some suburban or sparsely populated area. As a Chicago inner city driver, I really want to see these things handle our rush hour, especially in the snow and rain before I start calling this stuff the future. Its a good start, but I imagine the 'hard' problems with automated driving haven't been solved yet. If they were then these demos wouldn't be in great weather on sunny days and in low traffic.

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Post by icebraining »

joaonunesk wrote: post #507
bflesch wrote: post #451

Truly impressive. I wonder if the Model 3 will also be fitted out with all the sensors and cameras. If yes, I'll definitely get one. As a German citizen, it really bugs me that Volkswagen is incapable of this kind of innovation. I don't see their roadmap play out like they plan it, because Tesla might beat them to market hard. I fear German regulation will jump in (again) to help them against Tesla. Currently, the Ge…

The problem is that most of the established car companies are not thinking in the future. They become accommodate with the amount of cash they have on the hand, and they do not pursue innovation. Currently, Tesla is the only one who is delivering practical innovation and success!

Car companies have been developing this technology for longer than Tesla has even existed.

Here's Mercedes in 2014: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_RFzC_G5BA

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Post by Cyph0n »

S_A_P wrote: post #537

So what do these cars do when the hit a puddle of mud and it covers all the cameras. Will there be a new form of vandalism where someone puts scotch tape over/destroys the vehicles cameras and now your fancy autonomous vehicle is rendered incapacitated. Maybe this seems unlikely or ridiculous, but the dependence on cameras at points on the car that seem likely to get dirty and or damaged seems to be a risk to me.

I'm assuming the system is monitored by external circuitry, so a camera being covered should be easy to pick up. On top that, they're probably ensuring consensus of the outputs of all overlapping cameras.

This is definitely done on start, and probably even during operation.

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Post by esquevin »

S_A_P wrote: post #537

So what do these cars do when the hit a puddle of mud and it covers all the cameras. Will there be a new form of vandalism where someone puts scotch tape over/destroys the vehicles cameras and now your fancy autonomous vehicle is rendered incapacitated. Maybe this seems unlikely or ridiculous, but the dependence on cameras at points on the car that seem likely to get dirty and or damaged seems to be a risk to me.

What'd you do if you drove over mud and it covered your windshield ?

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Post by ghaff »

pyb wrote: post #495

No bad, but it still needs to be taught to keep to the right. Unless this is how people normally drive in the US ?

It's pretty normal on regular non-highway streets--especially if someone knows that they're going to need to get over to the left to make a turn in a few blocks. There's a general preference for keeping to the right on this sort of road if there's no reason not to be, but it's not really a strict rule.

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Post by AndrewDucker »

JshWright wrote: post #500
AndrewDucker wrote: post #485

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Self-driving taxis are the future. Far less waste when the vehicle isn't lying around all day taking up space and doing nothing.

I look forward to having to insert and remove three car seats for every short trip... EDIT: By 'car seat' I mean a seat for an infant/toddler/child.

Cars for people with unusual needs are obviously going to continue being personally owned.

But mosto of us will be delighted to have access to what is effectively an Uber only cheaper and more plentiful.

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Post by hacker_9 »

marricks wrote: post #514
hacker_9 wrote: post #477

> "The person in the driver seat is only there for legal reasons" > Person gets out and let's car park itself But seriously the tech is very impressive. The journey was rather simple though, and didn't cover more difficult areas (inner city driving, heavy stop start traffic, roadblocks, road accidents and so on). I hope that Tesla test these things thoroughly because they've already got one death under their belt, it…

I don't think it's really fair to put it as dire as that, humans have more deaths, with similar miles, under their belts. Many people are starting to realize that's the real test, especially those likely to be model S/≡/X customers. Real consumer and public education on the nature of the problem is necessary though, especially if we want a safer self driving world.

True but humans are a known quantity. For the first time, we are letting 'something else' drive that thinks completely different to us, yet we are entrusting our lives to it.

Because of our incredible image processing ability we can deal with a lot of shit that we may come across while driving. But the computer still has a lot of catching up to do in this department. Do you really want your life to end because an AI can't distinguish between a white lorry in the way and an empty road? It is an unnerving choice to have to make I think.

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Post by brianwawok »

rsync wrote: post #551
scraft wrote: post #475

Interesting for two reasons: 1. It is a self driving car, it is so clearly the future, I wish it existed now, it is going to be awesome (in my opinion). 2. Despite knowing about and following news about driverless cars for a while, there was something surprisingly (to me) compelling about watching the video. It's like you get a little taste of the full A to B that it can give you (door to door). Who wants to speculat…

"It is a self driving car, it is so clearly the future, I wish it existed now, it is going to be awesome (in my opinion)." Even now, several years into the current news/development arc of self-driving cars, I still can't believe this is going to be the future. We're really never going to european (or japanese) style train networks ? We're really going to keep binging on roads ? We, as a nation of fat slobs [1] are re…

Little bit sad right? I want a nation of walking.

But this is much more likely to actually happen. A grid of self driving cars powered by renewable energy. I will take it over the current state.

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Post by hipshaker »

Isn't this hackernews??

So many "but what if this and that and this..." & "and yeah let's see if it can handle X & Y"

This is the iPhone 1 of self-driving cars! That's akin to saying Apple should have waited to release their phone until iPhone 7 "because of this & that & this..."

Don't we have to start somewhere?? Aren't there supposed to be a big user base here who understands that it's an evolutionary process - we build the plane before we build the rocket before we shoot people into space?

Oviously the perfect self-driving car is still some way off, but I for one am thrilled this race is on!

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