All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware • Hacker News Board

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Post by rdickert » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 2:43 PM UTC

chillingeffect wrote: post #497

It's sad how presenting such solid, undeniable evidence results in a downtrend in valuation: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-shares-just-took-dive-14...

"results in" - You are assuming that the the announcement and the downtrend are causally related because they happened at about the same time. How do you know that the stock wasn't "trying to" go down further but was prevented from doing so by this announcement? This is one of my pet peeves in financial press: They announce some daily news and a price change as if somehow one caused the other. We simply don't know if/how they are related.

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Post by netsharc » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 2:43 PM UTC

wcummings wrote: post #518

ajmurmann wrote: post #510

About self driving cars in general: I am very concerned that self driving cars and speed limits are going to be a very annoying issue. I can see them drive way slow in semi-complicated situations annoying all other drivers. There are also many places in the county where it's normal and seemingly expected to go 5-10mp/h over the speed limit. Of course self driving cars will stay under the posted speed limit. I hope th…

I look forward to riding my bike 10mph in front of driverless cars. This is one of the few things that excites me about driverless cars. People should be driving below the limit (and the limits should be about 10mph lower in a lot of places) for pedestrian safety. The fatality rate drops precipitously around 20mph.

Instead of mad honking drivers, the car will sniff your smartphone's Bluetooth address. Computers you go near will recognize the smartphone, know it's you, and they'll start crashing programs and slowing down the wifi...

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Post by georgespencer » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 2:43 PM UTC

jgrahamc wrote: post #494

scraft wrote: post #475

Interesting for two reasons: 1. It is a self driving car, it is so clearly the future, I wish it existed now, it is going to be awesome (in my opinion). 2. Despite knowing about and following news about driverless cars for a while, there was something surprisingly (to me) compelling about watching the video. It's like you get a little taste of the full A to B that it can give you (door to door). Who wants to speculat…

I'd like to see a self-driving car navigate London's narrow streets with cars both sides and the negotiation that goes on between drivers about who goes first. I'm impressed with this self-driving on California's spacious streets in perfect weather. I'll be really impressed when I see a self-driving car go down a London street in pouring rain, realize it needs to allow someone to come from the other direction and rev…

These are problems which are actually improved as more cars move to autonomous driving. A sensible government would mandate that manufacturers must upload anonymised data about each car in real time, which would effectively allow for cross-talk between cars. This could enable automatic remedies to the above situations (car X tells car Y "I've got more room behind me, let me reverse), but also prevent them in the first place: car X might pull over because it knows car Y is traversing that street. It would also help to prevent traffic jams which would be a nice orthogonal benefit.)

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Post by GeorgeAnka » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 2:43 PM UTC

It's crazy, I can't belive that it will be works if will be only autonomous cars. It will be a lot of deadlocs.

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Post by mazesc » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 2:43 PM UTC

sixdimensional wrote: post #493

I feel like this video would have been even more awesome if Elon himself had been the passenger!

How so?

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Post by ceejayoz » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 2:44 PM UTC

laktak wrote: post #483

How to steal some cars: - hack into a car remotely - tell the car to drive to your parking lot - repeat

"Hey buddy, want to by a $100k car the cops are looking for that's lacking all the cool features because Tesla could track its location if we turned it on?

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Post by istorical » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 2:44 PM UTC

kraftman wrote: post #504

pyb wrote: post #495

No bad, but it still needs to be taught to keep to the right. Unless this is how people normally drive in the US ?

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Is this usual or is it just edited strangely?

In the US keeping to the right is a wisdom that is applied to highways (but even then it's more of a 'if you're driving slowly stay to the right') but isn't something people really consider on normal roads and streets.

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Post by vinchuco » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 2:45 PM UTC

AndrewDucker wrote: post #485

mkagenius wrote: post #456

Amazing. It does give a feel of bus/train when the owner gets off and the car heads to its next job. I wonder if you need to _buy_ cars when complete autonomous cars start to roll.

Self-driving taxis are the future. Far less waste when the vehicle isn't lying around all day taking up space and doing nothing.

Just as we do for airplane seats

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Post by dingaling » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 2:45 PM UTC

bflesch wrote: post #451

Truly impressive. I wonder if the Model 3 will also be fitted out with all the sensors and cameras. If yes, I'll definitely get one. As a German citizen, it really bugs me that Volkswagen is incapable of this kind of innovation. I don't see their roadmap play out like they plan it, because Tesla might beat them to market hard. I fear German regulation will jump in (again) to help them against Tesla. Currently, the Ge…

> because everyone who goes EV wants to go Tesla.

Other than the 250,000 drivers of Nissan Leafs... I think that's beyond twice as many as every Tesla ever built.

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Post by OJFord » Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 2:45 PM UTC

vadym909 wrote: post #525

jgrahamc wrote: post #494

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to see a self-driving car navigate London's narrow streets with cars both sides and the negotiation that goes on between drivers about who goes first. I'm impressed with this self-driving on California's spacious streets in perfect weather. I'll be really impressed when I see a self-driving car go down a London street in pouring rain, realize it needs to allow someone to come from the other direction and rev…

Maybe it will have technology (GPS, Live Traffic, Cameras) to not go on that street until it is good to do so.

    > Maybe it will have technology to not go on that street until it is good to do so.

Have you driven in London? (Or other comparably busy and narrow city - even NYC at least has 'American-width' roads.)

It's not technology that's required, barring perhaps flying car technology.

If every way is busy, you can't just wait eternally, you have to communicate with other drivers as parent commenter said, maybe let a couple of people go, and then realise when you just need to go for it and 'force' someone to wait for you if they're not otherwise going to.

It will be really awesome to see a car do that safely and autonomously.

There'll come a time, perhaps, when two cars are flashing their headlights at each other to communicate, for no real reason other than "that's how human-driven cars did it in the old days"!