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All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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If you go to the order page of the Model S, it says for the "Full Self-Driving Hardware": >Please note also that using a self-driving Tesla for car sharing and ride hailing for friends and family is fine, but doing so for revenue purposes will only be permissible on the Tesla Network, details of which will be released next year. Interesting decision.

Oooooh, is this another "you didn't buy it you're licensing it from us" type of situation a la John Deere tractors? Interesting.

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

#482

> "The person in the driver seat is only there for legal reasons" > Person gets out and let's car park itself But seriously the tech is very impressive. The journey was rather simple though, and didn't cover more difficult areas (inner city driving, heavy stop start traffic, roadblocks, road accidents and so on). I hope that Tesla test these things thoroughly because they've already got one death under their belt, it…

The parking space could be private and the road public and might therefore have different rules about drivers.

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

#484

Did you see how close the guys hands were to gripping the steering wheel? Obvious he didn't trust it completely :) Still, very cool. And the presence of cameras everywhere should help navigate insurance/accident stuff everywhere, I'd hope.

His hands were on the wheel because it'd be illegal to not do that. And that wasn't gripping, it was lightly touching.

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

#485

Amazing. It does give a feel of bus/train when the owner gets off and the car heads to its next job. I wonder if you need to _buy_ cars when complete autonomous cars start to roll.

Self-driving taxis are the future. Far less waste when the vehicle isn't lying around all day taking up space and doing nothing.

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

#486

Did you see how close the guys hands were to gripping the steering wheel? Obvious he didn't trust it completely :) Still, very cool. And the presence of cameras everywhere should help navigate insurance/accident stuff everywhere, I'd hope.

It's literally his job to be ready to take over in case of an emergency or malfunction.

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

#487

Is this video sped up to make it seem like the car is more capable? It seems jumpy, and, for the speed at which the car is going and comes to a stop, there is not as much lurching as I would expect.

I think the video is sped up, and while it may be sped up for a perfectly innocent reason, not indicating which parts of the video are sped up or by how much creates at least the appearance of possible impropriety, especially in a product demonstration.

There's no problem with speeding up demo footage if you indicate you are doing so, like https://youtu.be/PDPrFJazD3Q?t=3m34s

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know if any amount of data collection and model refinement will allow self driving in ALL situations. We always see self driving demos in California on very large roads, I'd like to see one in a small crowded street of Napoli or on a crossroad in Ho-Chi Minh.

> very large roads I've seen quite a few Google self driving cars on Castro in Mountain View. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/4939372588_47979bceec_z.... That picture doesn't do it justice during the most busy hours of the evening, where there's tons of people crossing and bicycles flying about in every direction. Given that, I've never seen a crowded street in Napoli or a crossroad in Ho-Chi Minh, but I can imag…

> Given that, I've never seen a crowded street in Napoli

My three tests for self-driving cars would be:

1. Drive through Milan on a Saturday afternoon, from the outside of the city, and park on the opposite side of the centre of the city.

2. Drive through London during a weekday, similar thing... cross the centre and find a parking space and park.

3. Drive through Paris during a weekend, same deal.

Those three cities are the most stressful to drive through for various reasons.

With Milan it's speed and decisiveness, small spaces and tight navigation.

With London it's the mix of traffic with a high cycling % along with a good mix of motorbikes and heavy goods vehicles as well as a phenomenal number of pedestrians who will walk out at any moment.

With Paris it's the speed of the ring-road (and the challenge of handling variable speed traffic on and near it) as well as the tight spaces on the streets and the numbers of scooter riders.

I also like the diversity of traffic signals and signs across those cities.

When I see a self-driving car manage those cities I am going to be impressed. It will exercise so much of their systems to do any one of those.

PS: I like that they are all fashion capitals... it would be a good marketing campaign to throw in Tokyo and NYC and present an accessible and fashionable angle to a set of super complex technical achievements.

Re: All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

#489
Video is well done, the car seems amazing.

Offtopic: There seems to be a bug, the video being uploaded twice:

https://www.tesla.com/videos/full-self-driving-hardware-all-...

https://www.tesla.com/videos/full-self-driving-hardware-all-...

The second one redirects to the first. The first contains two links to the second, below and on the right "Next video". I clicked for quite sometime until I figured what was happening.

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