Looks like Tesla self driving cars 'dry steer', something that my driving instructor always told me not to do.
What's dry steering?
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All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware
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#462Truly impressive. I wonder if the Model 3 will also be fitted out with all the sensors and cameras. If yes, I'll definitely get one. As a German citizen, it really bugs me that Volkswagen is incapable of this kind of innovation. I don't see their roadmap play out like they plan it, because Tesla might beat them to market hard. I fear German regulation will jump in (again) to help them against Tesla. Currently, the Ge…
Model 3 will have the hardware standard. For reference see [0] or the front page HN discussion thread going on right now.
[0]: https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now...
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#464WOW. SIGN. ME. UP! ...if I could only afford a Tesla. That was really impressive.
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#465Looks like Tesla self driving cars 'dry steer', something that my driving instructor always told me not to do.
They definitely do. I've seen this while watching a Model S pull into a parking spot.
I guess they figure that if you can afford the car, the extra wear on the tires shouldn't be a problem for you? Dunno
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#466Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is that statistics isn't that accurate a branch of math. For example, drivers who drive faster are statistically more accident prone. I'd wager, though, that Lewis Hamilton driving faster is less accident prone than me driving slower, something that'll never show up in any statistics based result set. Statistics are obviously useful, but they are a big gun that sometimes points towards feet.
I'd wager that Lewis Hamilton driving at speed would exhibit very different driving behaviour than I would. With enough data we wouldn't need to just rely on measuring speed. Reaction times, steering behaviour and lots of other driving terms I am not familiar with can all come into play. Cross reference this with actual accidents and you could come up with a fairly accurate model of what makes a safe driver.
Let me try to rewrite what you are saying in-line with my opinion, hopefully without any loss in translation. You are saying that statistics precision is dependent on model quality, and a better model yields a precision good enough to be usable.
You are correct. My problem with that approach is twofold:
1) There is no clear definition of "good enough";
2) The balancing mechanism between improving model accuracy and simplifying the model (for predictability/market competitiveness) involves actors with very unbalanced bargaining power (insurance companies vs very small subsets of customers)
If I can state the problem in another way: When you use a very refined statistical model for insurance premiums you are basically creating dynamic pricing for insurance services. Dynamic pricing hurts competition in the market through the development of an exaggerated bargaining power by one side of the market. Consumers would be worse off. What they gain in justice of their pricing (I get lower premiums because I'm a safe driver), they lose in bargaining power (via fragmentation of the consumer market).
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#468Police departments around the country are going to see a loss of revenue. No more rolling through stop signs, illegal lane changes, or speeding tickets.
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#469Truly impressive. I wonder if the Model 3 will also be fitted out with all the sensors and cameras. If yes, I'll definitely get one. As a German citizen, it really bugs me that Volkswagen is incapable of this kind of innovation. I don't see their roadmap play out like they plan it, because Tesla might beat them to market hard. I fear German regulation will jump in (again) to help them against Tesla. Currently, the Ge…
Yes model 3 will have the hardware. You'll have to pay extra to enable the software though.
That's great news. Thank you.
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#470Looks like Tesla self driving cars 'dry steer', something that my driving instructor always told me not to do.
What's dry steering?
Steering while not moving, I guess. It't not really good for the tyres. However, for certain maneuvers, e.g. when parking, there isn't really a good way to avoid it.