On the wikileak-ed emails from Tanden on Lessig

And thank you in turn for replying. You and I both received a number of downvotes, and outside of obvious spam and low effort posting it's disappointing to not receive at least a quick reply as to why. FWIW, I disagree with certain more specific parts of your post and that it's

>separate from the motivation for the Tanden/Podesta conversation on display here

as I think they're basically linked. If there's one thing Clinton embodies at this point as much as any politician in modern history, it's an extreme wonky attention to detail and pragmatism. Even more then disciplines like engineering, I think it'd be fair to describe applied politics as "the art of the possible". Lessig represents pretty much the polar opposite perspective, beyond any of the boring modern mush polarization of "left" vs "right". He's the Ivory Tower theorist/idealist, and that is a philosophical divide that has inspired fierce arguments and feelings for probably millennia. Unfortunately he's done some real damage with that attitude and his presidential campaign attempt indicates to me that whatever lesson he learned from his last major work in national level applied politics hasn't stuck very well (or that he learned the wrong lesson).

So assuming they encountered that sort of approach of his elsewhere, I think it is a legitimate thing to be frustrated over. And internal private venting in an organization using blunter and more colorful language then would be appropriate in public is not something I consider to represent a problem in and of itself. A lot of us have had times where we've cussed out some contractor or partner company or for that matter government bureaucrats inside our organizations out of feelings of immense frustration, sometimes fully justified, sometimes not, and sometimes in the heat of a moment more due to overall stress beyond any individual actor. I've encouraged team mates to do that in fact, because I wanted them venting to me, never ever ever to an external party. It's human to get furious sometimes, but it's professional to then put a lid on it. Often we've had response discussions and had an initial meeting where angry stuff gets said and written, and then the rule is that everyone sleeps on it. Re-reading the next day always results in major toning down, sometimes seeing that in the wider scheme it's really not that big a deal. But you wouldn't see that if you just grabbed the angry emails themselves.

I guess, just, be careful about getting too absolutist in your reading of modern times, where the public objectively has more access to information, secure communications, and lower barriers to entry and participation then any point in human history. I find naked assertions like "never in American history has money had such a stranglehold on our elected officials" dubious given "American history" includes times when merely traveling to the capital might take months and represented significant outlay. Money has always played a role. Are you really sure about the relative levels of power behemoths of power like Standard Oil had vs now? Have you considered how much of an issue "money" is vs the sorts of political favors and horse trading that happened even 50-100 years ago? Is it really right to blame "money" as if voters themselves are somehow getting out decided given their level of participation? I'm very suspicious of talk of "blowing up the system" because historically the result of blowing up systems tends to be uniformly bad, not good. Building something good takes immense intelligence, work, consistent engagement, and also a shitload of luck. A lot less, I'll note, then, say, actually just getting voter turnout high, every two years, for decades in favor of a focused positive agenda. In other words, if you can't pull that off in a democratic system with very strong speech protections and rule of law, what exactly makes you think you'd do better having "blown it up"? Populist appeals to quick fixes should always be met with suspicion.

I am not blaming the victim.

A sender of an email should not bear responsibility for an underlying email system's poor information security (expect in specific cases in which they are highly-technical and are transferring highly confidential information).

It is the administrator(s) of the email server's responsibility to ensure that both their users and the people they interact with are given basic protections against hackers.

There is no point in blaming a hacker for attacking an email server as they will not listen to you.

The only sane solution is for the administrator of the email system and those that hired them to be responsible for how secure their systems are and to act accordingly.

No, you didn't even take the time to criticize my argument, you dismissed it entirely. If you had actually read it you would understand what I was trying to say.