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Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Can you do another good deed and require your posters to include salary range in their job ads? It's the norm in the UK and we successfully forced this in Poland (though posters almost NEVER post salaries here). How? The companies need IT staff so much that almost all IT job boards (at least the most popular ones - like FB groups or https://nofluffjobs.com ) started requiring the salary range. I think your idea is pr…

Just my 2c -- I'm in the US and I disagree. For example, many of the jobs allow for a very broad experience. For example, in my current job, we are often looking for a smart, energetic people to work on X. Someone with a BS just out of college? An engineer with 10 years of matching experience? Tech lead wo just built X elsewhere? We will take either (if we like them) and adjust responsibilities instead. This approach…

> posting ridiculously wide salary range

why is this wrong?

if your actual, real wide salary range is not acceptable, people won't apply. if it is, and they agree with your philosophy, they will.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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What the hell is wrong with posting a wide salary range and stating you are looking at all sorts of people then? We're trying to prevent people wasting their time chatting to people when the remuneration will never be sufficient.

Honest question: Is a salary range of $50 - $100k really valuable to you as a job seeker?

If you're after a salary greater than $100k, then yes, absolutely. Some (factual) information is always better than no information.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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I wish folks like Bray had championed this cause 20 years ago. It may not have done much, but... it feels a bit weird to hear old people complain about discriminatory impact. I can't say he was a contributing factor to the ongoing 'youth culture', but... it wasn't hard to see this coming. My situation may be somewhat unique, in that I've had grey hair since I was 18. Not a HUGE amount at 18, but... people noticed. By…

I have the same hair "problem" (it runs in the family on my mother's side), I'm early 30s as well with significant gray hair showing and refusing to dye my hair, and... for me it has always been pretty much an advantage to get senior / management positions relatively fast since I was about 25 (I always tell anyone who asks/mocks about my hair that "at least they take me more seriously") and it has worked out pretty well so far.

My resume never goes back more than 5-7 yrs because it's not meant to be a history report but should be a strong 1-pager with just the highlights of your career, relative and relevant to the position you're applying for (for example, I started leaving out my education because it's not relevant to my experience anymore and it's not been a problem at all). I hope, for my own sake, that I don't owe everything to my hair, but it's definitely not been an obstacle to my progress.

I think confidence and attitude signal more than whatever you think people think about your hair (for starters, stop worrying/thinking about what other people may or may not perceive about you, simply project the self that you want to be) and if you worry about the gap in age perception so much, why not just put your birth date on your resume?

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Just my 2c -- I'm in the US and I disagree. For example, many of the jobs allow for a very broad experience. For example, in my current job, we are often looking for a smart, energetic people to work on X. Someone with a BS just out of college? An engineer with 10 years of matching experience? Tech lead wo just built X elsewhere? We will take either (if we like them) and adjust responsibilities instead. This approach…

> posting ridiculously wide salary range why is this wrong? if your actual, real wide salary range is not acceptable, people won't apply. if it is, and they agree with your philosophy, they will.

I tend to agree, but I think the argument against is basically that when you put a range, candidates' eyes go toward the high end and employers' eyes go toward the low end and then nobody ends up happy.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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I will usually just flat out ask up front.. and if it's a cagey response, I'll kindly decline.

I usually decline to interview people that ask my recruiter too early about salary. We work hard to post very clear job descriptions and requirements so if you read it and apply and get through the initial screening, then that's a pretty good indicator that we are in range on salary even if we've never discussed it.

Why? Recruiters aren't shy about asking about pay expectations up-front and it lets you know if you're all on the same page before wasting everybody's time.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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I usually decline to interview people that ask my recruiter too early about salary. We work hard to post very clear job descriptions and requirements so if you read it and apply and get through the initial screening, then that's a pretty good indicator that we are in range on salary even if we've never discussed it.

How exactly does passing through the initial screening make for a good indicator on salary range match?

It'd seem more likely to be the opposite, in fact.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Congrats! Small note, none of the listings appear when using uBlock Origin [ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa... ], a popular ad blocker. It seems related to your /js/ads-controller.js file (it gets blocked because of the "/js/ads-" portion in the path). I would suggest fixing that (and preferably minimizing your JS into one bundle).

And that's one of the reasons I don't use an ad blocker. Not even uBlock Origin, which receives all the praise, is reliable in that sense. I don't understand the crusade against people not using ad blockers by the way. I believe I have good reasons not to. Why do people seem to have a problem with that?

What "crusade?" I don't care if other people don't use ad blockers; in fact, it's probably to my benefit.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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post #164
post #135

Can you do another good deed and require your posters to include salary range in their job ads? It's the norm in the UK and we successfully forced this in Poland (though posters almost NEVER post salaries here). How? The companies need IT staff so much that almost all IT job boards (at least the most popular ones - like FB groups or https://nofluffjobs.com ) started requiring the salary range. I think your idea is pr…

Just my 2c -- I'm in the US and I disagree. For example, many of the jobs allow for a very broad experience. For example, in my current job, we are often looking for a smart, energetic people to work on X. Someone with a BS just out of college? An engineer with 10 years of matching experience? Tech lead wo just built X elsewhere? We will take either (if we like them) and adjust responsibilities instead. This approach…

> Someone with a BS just out of college?

> An engineer with 10 years of matching experience?

> Tech lead wo [sic] just built X elsewhere?

Sounds like you have three job postings crammed into one listing. Y'all on that tight of a budget?

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