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Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by TheGRS »

lubonay wrote: post #119
reustle wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Not a cultural fit"--LOL--fix your stupid culture and stop exploiting people, you smug fools! If you're hiring someone 15+ years older than the rest of your team, there are going to be some cultural differences.

From my personal experience, this is utter bullcrap. At my first real programming job in a somewhat large company, we were an Android team of 6 developers aged 20-25 (the 25 y.o. guy was the team leader) and one dude aged 40. It was very easy to get along with him, even though we couldn't really relate to the problems of having a teenage daughter. I wouldn't call these cultural differences problematic at all - actual…

I haven't ever worked in a 20-something only culture. I was the young guy when I joined my company, most of the team was in their 30s, some in their 40s. Over time it helped me grow as an individual, and it also helped me to grow professionally. Anyone who's had a few more years of experience probably has something wise to share with you, whether they know it or not. Hell even those with less experience often have a different perspective that is worth listening to. I guess what I'm trying to say is none of us should live in an echo chamber and we should all try to be open-minded (but maybe that's a little heavy-handed).

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by icebraining »

dannylandau wrote: post #112

Don't get it, how do you know that age discrimination is not at play with the jobs listed on your site?

Self-selection. Why bother paying to post a job on a site called OldGeekJobs if you won't accept old geeks as applicants?

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by skrebbel »

gregsadetsky wrote: post #3

Congrats! Small note, none of the listings appear when using uBlock Origin [ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa... ], a popular ad blocker. It seems related to your /js/ads-controller.js file (it gets blocked because of the "/js/ads-" portion in the path). I would suggest fixing that (and preferably minimizing your JS into one bundle).

Ad blockers truly are the new virus scanners. They monitor everything that goes into and out of your computer and randomly break stuff just for kicks. And if that happens, it's somehow the fault of the software provider and not the ad blocker vendor.

You can't test against ad blockers (or virus scanners) because the lists keep changing, so you end up applying ridiculous alchemy like not calling your API endpoints "/analysis" but "/computation" and then you just hope for the best.

In the grand scheme of things, I agree that the people behind ad blockers are fighting the good fight, but in practice it's become a cat-and-mouse game of "who can break the internet the most". I don't know a solution.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by icebraining »

chinese_dan wrote: post #104
alexdumitru wrote: post #6

The jobs don't load with uBlock active.

Why should this site owner cater to someone using adblock software? If you want to see the jobs properly, add the domain to your white list.

Why should this site owner cater to someone using adblock software?

Because he's trying to make money and ignoring this problem may lose him users? It's not like he's actually showing regular web ads, so an ad-blocking user is as potentially profitable as any other.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by fsloth »

reustle wrote: post #97
hash-set wrote: post #52

Here's the deal: Employers will exploit your age no matter how old you are. There is no "perfect age" for a developer. When you're young, they exploit you because you are inexperienced (especially at negotiation). When you are "old" they exploit by trying to play the age card. "Not a cultural fit"--LOL--fix your stupid culture and stop exploiting people, you smug fools! So what is there? A ten year "ripe" age range w…

> "Not a cultural fit"--LOL--fix your stupid culture and stop exploiting people, you smug fools! If you're hiring someone 15+ years older than the rest of your team, there are going to be some cultural differences.

15 years is no big deal with professional coders. The age range in our team spans a 30 year range - from 20s to 50s.

"Cultural fit" is either a prejudice or an excuse.

The 'old' guys who never stopped improving are friggin amazing in my experience.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by z3t4 »

mgkimsal wrote: post #28

I wish folks like Bray had championed this cause 20 years ago. It may not have done much, but... it feels a bit weird to hear old people complain about discriminatory impact. I can't say he was a contributing factor to the ongoing 'youth culture', but... it wasn't hard to see this coming. My situation may be somewhat unique, in that I've had grey hair since I was 18. Not a HUGE amount at 18, but... people noticed. By…

It's just as annoying to have the opposite problem, where you will be dismissed right away, despite having twenty years of experience in the field.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by Kiro »

gregsadetsky wrote: post #3

Congrats! Small note, none of the listings appear when using uBlock Origin [ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa... ], a popular ad blocker. It seems related to your /js/ads-controller.js file (it gets blocked because of the "/js/ads-" portion in the path). I would suggest fixing that (and preferably minimizing your JS into one bundle).

And that's one of the reasons I don't use an ad blocker. Not even uBlock Origin, which receives all the praise, is reliable in that sense.

I don't understand the crusade against people not using ad blockers by the way. I believe I have good reasons not to. Why do people seem to have a problem with that?

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by scrollaway »

reustle wrote: post #97
hash-set wrote: post #52

Here's the deal: Employers will exploit your age no matter how old you are. There is no "perfect age" for a developer. When you're young, they exploit you because you are inexperienced (especially at negotiation). When you are "old" they exploit by trying to play the age card. "Not a cultural fit"--LOL--fix your stupid culture and stop exploiting people, you smug fools! So what is there? A ten year "ripe" age range w…

> "Not a cultural fit"--LOL--fix your stupid culture and stop exploiting people, you smug fools! If you're hiring someone 15+ years older than the rest of your team, there are going to be some cultural differences.

I've worked at three different small (Age is only a cultural issue if you make it one. As it turns out, when you evaluate people on less superficial things than age, skin color or gender, this simply doesn't come up.

I've talked about this before and I've heard crazy shit like "what if the person in question has to go back to wife&kids rather than go out for drinks - it's a cultural misfit" and honestly... what the fuck. Not going out, not participating in out-of-office activities, who cares? I avoid most parties (or only go to show up) because I intensely dislike them. That doesn't make me older than the rest of my team, and if someone thinks it's an issue they're probably someone I don't want to work with.

There's extremes (such as extremely antisocial people) you can't always accomodate, but that usually has nothing to do with age.

Re: Thank HN: From Google form to $1k in revenue in one month

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Post by Torn »

gregsadetsky wrote: post #3

Congrats! Small note, none of the listings appear when using uBlock Origin [ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa... ], a popular ad blocker. It seems related to your /js/ads-controller.js file (it gets blocked because of the "/js/ads-" portion in the path). I would suggest fixing that (and preferably minimizing your JS into one bundle).

+1 for the minimizing into one bundle thing. Sets of assets are loading sequentially which is slowing page load down.

Your code in each js file seems self-contained, so a simple in-order file concatenation into one .js file as a build step would help. gulp and gulp-concat would do it in a few lines of node, and you'd push the built output to your site.

If you end up wrting so much script that a concatenation approach stops scaling, look into webpack and web modules.

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