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Why do you trust Tesla? In what ways are their interests aligned with yours?
Why would you not trust Tesla? Are their interests not aligned with yours?
All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware
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Which will only last if they're the only ones that can make self-driving cars I would think. Edit: Though you can have your car join that network sooo. Mostly just means they don't want to sell to Uber, heh.
Nah, the other companies will slap them on too. People need to fight this BS.
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> Google has been working on this problem for longer and they have access to the largest image/video datasets in the world to train their models As of August, Google's self-driving cars have 2 million miles of real on-road experience, while Tesla's Autopilot systems have 140 million. They're beaming back data to Tesla the whole time.
My understanding is because Tesla has to send their data over the cell network it is first heavily processed/reduced by the cars onboard computer before being sent back (in order to conserve bandwidth). So I am not sure if it's fair to compare the 2 company's datasets based on miles driven alone.
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#244He calls his company's technology level 3, which is more like autopilot, as opposed to level 4, which is a fully autonomous self driving car e.g. Google's.
Does Tesla aim to eventually have a fully autonomous self driving car?
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The only obvious downside to an outside observer is that they will find it difficult to collect 'all weather' data in substantial volume in less than approximately a single year. From the positive side, they will collect and be able to evaluate a much /wider/ range of driving data from a far larger set. They are much more likely to run across 'better morons' both in operators of the Tesla and in operators of other ca…
Really a lot of weather patterns are analogous; for vision heavy rain isn't terribly different from a blizzard, etc. With a large enough span across the US you can get pretty much all weather conditions inside a 6 month window from mid summer to mid winter.
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#246I wonder how this will compare against geohotz' comma.ai aftermarket self driving kit that he promises to ship by end of year. He calls his company's technology level 3, which is more like autopilot, as opposed to level 4, which is a fully autonomous self driving car e.g. Google's. Does Tesla aim to eventually have a fully autonomous self driving car?
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Nah, the other companies will slap them on too. People need to fight this BS.
Do people also need to fight the EULA on Microsoft Excel? If not, what is the general principle that should determine when to fight a EULA?
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#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nah, the other companies will slap them on too. People need to fight this BS.
Do people also need to fight the EULA on Microsoft Excel? If not, what is the general principle that should determine when to fight a EULA?
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#249I get that tech companies want self-driving cars really bad because they smell billions of dollars in "disruption" but no matter how good AI gets, I have a suspicion it won't actually do better than a decent human driver can do. It's not about processing speed, it's about experience and reflexes, which granted, not everyone has. Let's see a self-driving car win a Formula 1 race--and even that controlled racetrack env…
>In terms of safety, people will still lose their lives, they will just die from different kinds of car accidents than the kinds we have now If self driving cars kill 20 thousand people a year, it would still be a major improvement. 30 thousand people die every year from human drivers.
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#250I get that tech companies want self-driving cars really bad because they smell billions of dollars in "disruption" but no matter how good AI gets, I have a suspicion it won't actually do better than a decent human driver can do. It's not about processing speed, it's about experience and reflexes, which granted, not everyone has. Let's see a self-driving car win a Formula 1 race--and even that controlled racetrack env…
Computers don't have fatigue. Ever driven for 12 hours? I have. I was so exhausted, I couldn't tell how much of safety hazard I was to everyone else. Humans fuck up like that. Even if computers can only match humans at skill level, they will be at the skill level 100% of the time, no directions. (And they will probably exceed us in skill anyways) Car accidents don't happen because people lack skill nearly as often as…