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Fusion – One-stop prototyping service for PCBs

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Re: Fusion – One-stop prototyping service for PCBs

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I currently use goldphoenix. How do they compare to them?

> The only other time I've had PCBAs made in China was through GoldPhoenix and I was very unhappy with the quality of soldering

From TaylorAlexander in sibling comments, who has used both services.

Re: Fusion – One-stop prototyping service for PCBs

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I find it amazing that OSHpark manages to be price-competitive with Chinese PCB services. If you need small 4-layer boards with ENIG finish, OSHpark is hard to beat!

I think it is the specificity of OSHpark that makes it work for them.

They are also great for smaller sizes, but as soon as you get bigger than a few square inches, they get expensive in a hurry.

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Shameless plug here, we're just working on getting a PCB & assembly service like Seeedstudio to Europe. What we're trying to achieve is to get close to prices from China but with zero quantities. That means you don't have to take care of stock, as soon as you need one we manufacture it. Beside that all manufacturing is done in Germany and we take care of logistics. Anyone interested take a look at https://go.aisler.n…

Finally, something being done in Europe! Sign me up. I've been using Seeed, ITEAD & OSHPark for my hobby stuff, and MacroFab for work stuff (eyeing closely PCBng which gets a lot of things right, but doesn't support all my components yet), but all of those have the same problem: shipping. You either pay with time (3 weeks to get your boards back) or with money (>$60 for quick shipping). I believe there is a lot that…

You might want to look at these UK companies who have helped produce the badges for the last two EMFCamp events: http://ragworm.eu/ http://www.hcduk.com/

Re: Fusion – One-stop prototyping service for PCBs

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Has anyone used their service to build fully-populated boards? I've been dabbling in making boards as a hobby but really don't like the soldering bit at the end. I'd be happy to pay a bit more for it to be done by machines.

The PCB ordering service seems to accept files well, and the prices are great. But the link is hard to find. From the home page, it's not even clear that they make boards.

Board assembly service is even harder to find. It's here: [1] The list of stock parts they can assemble, the Open Parts Library, is a dead link. It's actually at [2]. although there are several versions and I'm not sure which one is what they actually stock.

[1] http://www.seeedstudio.com/propagate/app/service/ [2] http://statics3.seeedstudio.com/assets/file/fusion/Seeed_OPL...

Re: Fusion – One-stop prototyping service for PCBs

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Shameless plug here, we're just working on getting a PCB & assembly service like Seeedstudio to Europe. What we're trying to achieve is to get close to prices from China but with zero quantities. That means you don't have to take care of stock, as soon as you need one we manufacture it. Beside that all manufacturing is done in Germany and we take care of logistics. Anyone interested take a look at https://go.aisler.n…

What's your pricing like? I don't see anything on the site, and I don't have a PCB on my phone right now to upload to see if I can get a price.

If your price is comparable to DirtyPCBs, you have a new customer.

Re: Fusion – One-stop prototyping service for PCBs

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Shameless plug here, we're just working on getting a PCB & assembly service like Seeedstudio to Europe. What we're trying to achieve is to get close to prices from China but with zero quantities. That means you don't have to take care of stock, as soon as you need one we manufacture it. Beside that all manufacturing is done in Germany and we take care of logistics. Anyone interested take a look at https://go.aisler.n…

You pivoting from your OSHW platform Patrick? This is Kaspar, I think we might have met at FOSDEM 2 years ago? I gave a talk about my browser extension: https://1clickbom.com

Re: Fusion – One-stop prototyping service for PCBs

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I used their 2-layer service a while back it wasn't impressed, primary issues were solder mask wasn't up to spec, silkscreen was rough, and some copper was removed from areas that should have met their spec. I wound up going with pcbway.com on the same gerbers and have used them many times since.

Thanks for the tip. I have just ordered a PCB where I really care about the silkscreen from DiryPCBs. We'll see how it turns out (given they pretty much pride themselves in not caring about the quality so much). If it's not up to scratch I will give PCBway a go.

Re: Fusion – One-stop prototyping service for PCBs

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I am very satisfied with Seeed's service. I used to place an order of 2 layers PCB for $9.9. Their engineer even helped me inspect one of the bugs. Really out of my expectation. I left a msg in the user voice for 6 layers PCB( it was unavailable at that time). After 15 days, they send me email say it is online now. Quite impressive for how they care customer's advice. https://www.seeedstudio.com/new-fusion-pcb.html

Re: Fusion – One-stop prototyping service for PCBs

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Regarding material, are there standard dimensions for FR-4 (and other materials) boards out of which PCBs are manufactured?

The standard boards are pretty large, but they do come in a variety of sizes. Once you are in volume, the cost of the PCB itself is pretty small. Board houses will almost always want to panelize themselves, partially because their machinery will be set up for a particular size. The machinery is adjustable, but the adjustment itself costs them some labor, so they would rather stick with a single panel size until the production run gets very large or the board has special needs.
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