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What If the Newspaper Industry Made a Colossal Mistake?

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Re: What If the Newspaper Industry Made a Colossal Mistake?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Re: What If the Newspaper Industry Made a Colossal Mistake?

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The crisis is not one of content. But one of distribution.

The internet has destroyed the lock on distribution relied on by; Publishers, MPAA, RIAA, newspapers, governments and even people who expect hard to access (look up in county courts files) means effectively "private".

There is vastly more supply of "attention" than there is demand for "attention". Combined with the ease of distribution/search and picking and choosing tiny bits from each "supplier" means it's extremely hard to monetize or even convince your consumers that you provide any value at all. i.e. I can pay/endure ads from you or I can go to the fify other sources/aggregators of same information.

Re: What If the Newspaper Industry Made a Colossal Mistake?

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i read another article mentioning that one of the main consequences of this is the lack of quality local news and political coverage, which is still something only local newspapers can provide. there is plenty of online coverage about the latest stupid thing trump said or far off world events, not so much coverage of local politicians and things in your community that actually could affect you.

Re: What If the Newspaper Industry Made a Colossal Mistake?

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i read another article mentioning that one of the main consequences of this is the lack of quality local news and political coverage, which is still something only local newspapers can provide. there is plenty of online coverage about the latest stupid thing trump said or far off world events, not so much coverage of local politicians and things in your community that actually could affect you.

The national outlets should team up with local newspapers to syndicate articles and provide a cut of the ad/subscription revenue.

e.g. NYT would team up with SmallTown, Ohio newspaper so that a user can subscribe to both his local newspaper and NYT and see articles on the same page.

Re: What If the Newspaper Industry Made a Colossal Mistake?

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i read another article mentioning that one of the main consequences of this is the lack of quality local news and political coverage, which is still something only local newspapers can provide. there is plenty of online coverage about the latest stupid thing trump said or far off world events, not so much coverage of local politicians and things in your community that actually could affect you.

Local news isn't going to be pushed at you front and center, at least not until Google knows most people's home town (or most relevant town). However, when I google $hometown+news, I get a pretty decent listing.

Not sure if this works well for cities that are large enough to cause world news themselves. And, if you did this for San Francisco, I imagine that you would simply be directed back to HN ;)

Re: What If the Newspaper Industry Made a Colossal Mistake?

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post #10

The conclusion that a drop in readership is proof that moving to the web was a mistake is extraordinarily shallow. "Readers continue to leave print newspapers, but they’re not migrating to the online editions." Because they have more options. Print products were often monopolies, especially in the early to mid 90s, a hey day for newspapers. There was often a single publication per DMA. What happened then is newspaper…

Sacrificing the ideals of journalism sounds like a bad deal for democracy. But then again, if people would rather be entertained by whatever is in their filter bubble for five minutes, than be challenged, I guess that's the kind of news world we get.

> Sacrificing the ideals of journalism sounds like a bad deal for democracy

We should not romanticize journalism of the past too much either. The "old news" subreddit gives some perspective (obviously, it's biased towards funny or unusual stories) https://www.reddit.com/r/OldNews

Re: What If the Newspaper Industry Made a Colossal Mistake?

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post #5

This article appears to neglect the impact of craigslist and similar services on classified ad revenue. With that revenue gone newspapers are in trouble, mistake or not.

Ever have to place a obituary lately? Nearly $1k! For a medium size market!

I think I see a way to save print news, but it won't be pretty...

Re: What If the Newspaper Industry Made a Colossal Mistake?

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Newspapers are in a no win situation, so every move they have made since the late 90s has been a mistake, because there is no way out. Digital is free. We can all read free journalism until doomsday. A couple business publications (WSJ, FT) can erect a paywall and succeed -- most can't. Print readership is aging and shrinking as it dies. It is not the future. Print will become a luxury good, and newspapers will produce rare objects for a higher price to be enjoyed by a smaller audience of connoisseurs. The days of massive print readership are dwindling rapidly, even if print remains (decreasingly) profitable.

Re: What If the Newspaper Industry Made a Colossal Mistake?

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be interested to know that Buzzfeed seems to be doing investigative reporting now

I just checked out their homepage, let's just say that isn't exactly evident from the content there. I'm going to assume your comment was sarcastic unless there is some proof to the contrary. Some samples: Oh, boy. 34 of the best products from shark tank. 23 texts that will make you laugh way harder than they should. How much do you actually know about drugs? Find awesome gifts for friends and family. 27 Ingenious Ha…

Buzzfeed, who are way up my shit list for clickbait crap, have nonetheless done some phenomenally good reporting on the TPP and ISDS issue, including multi-part deep coverage.

You've got to dig for the good stuff, but it actually is there.

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