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I thought this was interesting at first. An effort to push the JS environment towards standardization is a much needed initiative. Then I saw the "initial projects" list. "Appium, contributed by Sauce Labs, is an open source Node.js server..." "Interledger.js, contributed by Ripple, enables instant payments and micropayments in any currency..." "JerryScript, contributed by Samsung, is a lightweight, fully-featured Ja…
Though nice to see moment and webpack
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The fact that people can contribute is great, the fact that it is impossible to get started in modern JS development without making dozens of seemingly inscrutable choices is not.
That's because "modern javascript" is not there yet, it's still in an experimental phase, we need transpilers and other stuff to use features that are not in a finished state. It will get better with time.
"It's not there" i.e its a stinking pile of shit.
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The fact that people can contribute is great, the fact that it is impossible to get started in modern JS development without making dozens of seemingly inscrutable choices is not.
That's because "modern javascript" is not there yet, it's still in an experimental phase, we need transpilers and other stuff to use features that are not in a finished state. It will get better with time.
I thought this was interesting at first. An effort to push the JS environment towards standardization is a much needed initiative. Then I saw the "initial projects" list. "Appium, contributed by Sauce Labs, is an open source Node.js server..." "Interledger.js, contributed by Ripple, enables instant payments and micropayments in any currency..." "JerryScript, contributed by Samsung, is a lightweight, fully-featured Ja…
webpack
moment
jquery
mocha
lodash
eslint
grunt
A few years ago, some high profile organizations (W3C, Adobe, Facebook, Google, Hp, Intel, Microsoft, Mozilla, Nokia, Opera) came together to try to help standardize the web platform [1](Javascript, CSS, HTML). That was a HUGE failure - because it was driven by business rather than developers. How will the "Javascript foundation" do better? [1] http://webplatform.com
I don't see the need for this to cherry pick a few project and push them with the Linux brand. The JS landscape is fragmented for a good reason and I don't see that as problem in fact, rather as a feature. With NPM and YARN we already have a good enough package management system and their platform can help me evaluate if a package is community supported enough. I'm talking about the stats that I can just check: numbe…
How can you find the js fragmentation a feature and not a stinking pile of shit? Seriously.
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That's because "modern javascript" is not there yet, it's still in an experimental phase, we need transpilers and other stuff to use features that are not in a finished state. It will get better with time.
You're literally contradicting yourself. "It's not there" i.e its a stinking pile of shit.
I thought this was interesting at first. An effort to push the JS environment towards standardization is a much needed initiative. Then I saw the "initial projects" list. "Appium, contributed by Sauce Labs, is an open source Node.js server..." "Interledger.js, contributed by Ripple, enables instant payments and micropayments in any currency..." "JerryScript, contributed by Samsung, is a lightweight, fully-featured Ja…
I see a lot of comments here interpreting this as a push towards standardizing certain tools, yet I don't see anything on the site that suggests that is their mission, nor do I see any way they could possibly effect that kind of change. There seems to be some kind of messaging problem in that we are reading totally different things into what this foundation is about. Can you share why you think this foundation is try…
One interpretation:
"key JavaScript solutions and related technologies" = brands
"drive broad adoption" = pushing on developers
I hope the organizers of JSF can share what works and doesn't with the wider community. If they want to solve fragmentation in JavaScript projects, no one organization will do that. The need to share their ideas where they work well.
I asked a few questions on Twitter yesterday to this end, and if there is a JSF member around I would really appreciate some thoughts:
* What does the "mentorship program" look like? It is mentioned several times but not with much detail. (https://twitter.com/mixonic/status/788046983437037568)
* Can provide context re: "Today the JS Foundation touts a new open, technical governance structure"? What are the changes, and what led to them? https://twitter.com/mixonic/status/788038708364587008
* What are the motivations for moving to Apache 2.0 as a default license? I expect something about IBM and the patent clause. Does adopting this license attract more corporate participation?
Thank you!
A few years ago, some high profile organizations (W3C, Adobe, Facebook, Google, Hp, Intel, Microsoft, Mozilla, Nokia, Opera) came together to try to help standardize the web platform [1](Javascript, CSS, HTML). That was a HUGE failure - because it was driven by business rather than developers. How will the "Javascript foundation" do better? [1] http://webplatform.com