Shame on Y Combinator • Hacker News Board

Re: Shame on Y Combinator

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Post by DasIch » Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 9:46 AM UTC

hoodoof wrote: post #27

I'm no Trumpist and no fan of Thiel, but I believe anyone can place their vote where-ever they want. I may not agree with him but I would fight to the end for his right to vote for Trump if he wants.

Nobody has a problem with whomever Thiel is voting for or wants to restrict his ability to vote in anyway.

This isn't issue and you pretending to be merely derails the discussion.

Re: Shame on Y Combinator

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Post by cyborgx7 » Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 9:47 AM UTC

kybernetyk wrote: post #34

Why do people need to drag their personal opinions into business matters? Demanding someone gets fire/removed just because they have a different political opinion than you is ridiculous.

It's probably not the same people but it's funny (in kind of a sad sort of way) that you have people arguing for deregulation because you can vote with your wallet if you're morally opposed to something, and for everyone keeping their political opinions out of business at the same time.

Edit: Nevermind. I just went and read some of your other comments out of curiosity and you're a libertarian. It's exactly the same people.

Re: Shame on Y Combinator

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Post by epaga » Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 9:47 AM UTC

HN admins - if you're going to shut this one down as well, could I appeal to you to at least give a reasoning why? Killing posts like these without for example dang providing at least a quick reasoning why leaves a bad taste in my mouth...

Re: Shame on Y Combinator

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Post by amasad » Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 9:49 AM UTC

Peter Thiel's support for Trump seems instrumental and not an end-in-itself[1]. I disagree with it and think it's stupid. But if he was my business partner and told me that he had good reasons to think that the long-term utility of a Trump president outweighs the unpleasantness and negative side-effects then I would argue with him and try to talk him out of it. Thinking about it in this way, shunning him seems to be an extreme thing to do.

[1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/peter-thiel-trump-ha...

Re: Shame on Y Combinator

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Post by ww520 » Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 9:50 AM UTC

This is a disgrace to punish someone just because they have different view. Kudos to Y Cominator to not cave in. Peter Thiel is free to support and donate to whoever candidate he feels strong about. If you don't like it, donate to the other candidate. Dragging it into business and people life is so Mccarthyism.

Re: Shame on Y Combinator

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Post by IMTDb » Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 9:50 AM UTC

mbrock wrote: post #40

kybernetyk wrote: post #34

Why do people need to drag their personal opinions into business matters? Demanding someone gets fire/removed just because they have a different political opinion than you is ridiculous.

Political "opinion" in this case isn't a bubblegum flavor preference. The presidency of the U.S. isn't a personal matter.

As a matter of fact, it is ;) A system where everyone can personally choose their leaders without external pressure or control is called a democracy.

Re: Shame on Y Combinator

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Post by ww520 » Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 9:51 AM UTC

epaga wrote: post #43

HN admins - if you're going to shut this one down as well, could I appeal to you to at least give a reasoning why? Killing posts like these without for example dang providing at least a quick reasoning why leaves a bad taste in my mouth...

People flag it. I just did. Not sure whether the HN admins have anything to do with it.

Re: Shame on Y Combinator

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Post by doe88 » Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 9:52 AM UTC

I understand Marco's point and I agree with him but I must say for once I find his post not very well written.

Re: Shame on Y Combinator

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Post by ptaipale » Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 9:52 AM UTC

stewartUK wrote: post #26

Please, do the right thing, and don't take it down again. https://www.reddit.com/r/startups/comments/582t9v/y_combinat...

This still shouldn't be on HN. I'm not from the US and I am totally fed up with both pro and anti Trump/Clinton propaganda that spews out to cover all of the world, and I don't want to see it here, at least particularly when it's just "stories about politics, or crime, or sports" and particularly not "evidence of some interesting new phenomenon." as the HN guidelines put it.

I'd rather fight for Thiel's right to say and work for his opinion.

Re: Shame on Y Combinator

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Post by elias12 » Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 9:52 AM UTC

kybernetyk wrote: post #34

Why do people need to drag their personal opinions into business matters? Demanding someone gets fire/removed just because they have a different political opinion than you is ridiculous.

I am not sure if it is ridiculous. It depends. It's about a line that everyone has to draw and to set. And this also what Marco is trying to mention in his post I guess.

Let's take a more extreme example from history, just for pointing out that there is a line: I hope we could agree that supporting the NSDAP is as far over such a line as imaginable.

Not comparing anyone in this context with the NSDAP, just pointing out that there is such a line, and hiding behind "political free opinion" doesn't help to avoid hard decisions.