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Re: Easy Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Post by ddorian43 »

eloff wrote: post #17
mp3geek wrote: post #14

Always see Amazon price reductions being promoted on HN, I didn't relise it's still so expensive, compared to my hetzner dedi.

Yes, it's not apples to apples at all, but AWS runs about 5x the cost without considering bandwidth. If you use a lot of transfer, even between AZs (same price as between regions!), it will dwarf the hardware costs. Compare e.g. the Skylake EX51-SSD at $63 USD / month amortized for one year vs R3 High-Memory Double Extra Large at $300/month 1-year no-upfront. Both have 8 hyperthreads, AWS has ECC memory (good) and hy…

I'm all for dedicated servers but please don't compare against non-ecc ram.

Re: Easy Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Post by boundlessdreamz »

ckozlowski wrote: post #20
jandrese wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is missing is storage and bandwidth costs, which can be a nontrivial chunk of an EC2 bill. And yes, it is hair pullingly frustrating experience trying to figure out how much an EC2 instance is going to cost you using Amazon's tools.

Can you elaborate a bit? Is it the cost calculator? ( https://calculator.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html ) What do you find frustrating? What can we improve? Let us know! (Disclaimer: I work for AWS.)

Not OP. But Amazon's pricing is very complex compared to Google's and also more expensive when it comes to VMs.

Re: Easy Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Post by meddlepal »

barnacs wrote: post #24
azurezyq wrote: post #18

that's why I love Google's custom machine types, fully customizable. https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/instances/creating-ins... and all with fast networks.

Yep, as much as I love to hate on google, I recently trialed their vms, aws and azure and google offered the best experience by far. I have no idea why people like aws so much. To spin up a simple vm, I had to go to the correct web interface for the specific location, go through a wizard full of weird nicknames for all services while browsing multiple pages of documentation to figure out that I need "ec2" and "t1.mic…

GCP just feels so much better "put together" from UX to product features. It had the advantage of not being first-mover.

Re: Easy Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Post by pacala »

saryant wrote: post #26
barnacs wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, as much as I love to hate on google, I recently trialed their vms, aws and azure and google offered the best experience by far. I have no idea why people like aws so much. To spin up a simple vm, I had to go to the correct web interface for the specific location, go through a wizard full of weird nicknames for all services while browsing multiple pages of documentation to figure out that I need "ec2" and "t1.mic…

How much does the experience of your first 15 minutes really matter when you're picking a platform for the next several years?

A lot. We're running a small Looking towards the next several years:

* https://cloud.google.com/container-engine [docker in the cloud]

* https://cloud.google.com/bigquery [sql for analytics]

* https://cloud.google.com/ml [tensor flow]

* https://cloud.google.com/dataflow [2nd gen map-reduce]

* https://cloud.google.com/bigtable [large scale semi-structured storage]

* https://cloud.google.com/preemptible-vms [cheap VMs]

* https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/networks-and-firewalls [fast networks]

Quite a lot of Google's infrastructure crown jewels have become part of their Cloud offering. Not sure where to start looking for competing AWS services, forget about looking closer at design / docs / scale / reliability.

[xGoogler here, used to work on GCP]

Re: Easy Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Post by hrez »

cobookman wrote: post #29
hrez wrote: post #25

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Not to take from noob experience but google just has less features and services. When/if they have as many it will be similar mess. It's already getting there. Also, you could import your own key in aws. Though I agree that aws could benefit from global settings across regions like keys, cloutrails, config and so on. With more regions coming up it becomes unnecessary noise to manage each region separately.

What features is google cloud missing that's stopping you from switching today. A lot of Googlers lurk these forms and I'm sure they'd love the feedback.

It does not answer your question straight but here are some things that stared at me in the first week though perhaps there is a way I don't know about:

1. No tag based billing ala aws. The only way to separate bills seems to be using projects. Which means separate networks. Which means more vpn needed to tie it all together to corp network?

2. Need more granular IAM scopes. I.e. I want a user that gets readonly for compute, disks and snapshots and create/delete for snapshots.

3. Tags are labels are tags? For me that was a bit of wtf moment. It might have its reasons but I want to add labels without possibility to trigger firewall rules. For that matter why labels are alpha feature? It's not like it's a new service.

Re: Easy Amazon EC2 Instance Comparison

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Post by rmykhajliw »

cobookman wrote: post #29
hrez wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to take from noob experience but google just has less features and services. When/if they have as many it will be similar mess. It's already getting there. Also, you could import your own key in aws. Though I agree that aws could benefit from global settings across regions like keys, cloutrails, config and so on. With more regions coming up it becomes unnecessary noise to manage each region separately.

What features is google cloud missing that's stopping you from switching today. A lot of Googlers lurk these forms and I'm sure they'd love the feedback.

ALL. 1. billing - is stoped accepting my card a year ago (when card expired) and didn't work so far. I wrote to support, called - nothing. 2. Highly unintuitive interface, I spent 2 days to run a single instance, WTF ???. 3. Useless support 4. Limited API 5. Limited access/roles system 6. Almost no support of external deploy/release tools 7. No logs/events collecting/processing service

Google is not suitable for development at all.

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