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Re: Disney Open Source

#31

Post by BinaryIdiot »

gkoberger wrote: post #22
alexkavon wrote: post #5

Can't wait for the Mickey Mouse repo in 2024.

Why? Disney has invested countless dollars into Mickey Mouse over the past 89 years. It's not like the Happy Birthday song, being hoarded without innovation purely for profit; they're actively expanding/investing/improving and making billions of people happy. Why should random companies get to legally print knockoff Mickey t-shirts just because enough time has passed?

> Why should random companies get to legally print knockoff Mickey t-shirts just because enough time has passed?

Because our Copyright laws are all sorts of outdated and ridiculous in various ways.

Re: Disney Open Source

#32

Post by bduerst »

bmuon wrote: post #13
baccredited wrote: post #11

Steps: 1. Fire all the old programmers 2. Make them train their cheap H-1B visa replacements 3. Open source some code 4. Have a magical day! http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us/last-task-after-layoff-...

Did the NYTimes actually do any research for that piece? H1Bs are required to have a higher salary than average precisely to avoid that from happening

What happened was HCL and Cognizant were going to provide IT consultant work for Disney, but the consultants were based somewhere else other than Disney that had a lower prevailing wage.

Sponsoring employers are supposed to report the working areas on the LCA applications, and the USCIS is cracking down hard on the tech consultant firms trying to exploit that loophole this year.

Re: Disney Open Source

#33

Post by JustSomeNobody »

pzenger wrote: post #16
bmuon wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did the NYTimes actually do any research for that piece? H1Bs are required to have a higher salary than average precisely to avoid that from happening

I believe it is based on the average for the country, which is much lower than the average in certain areas, like California.... But I may be wrong.

Hope it isn't based on what the government pays developers. I've seen some java devs making upper 30s to low 40s within the past few years. That's just crazy.

Re: Disney Open Source

#34

Post by jedberg »

I as really hoping all the projects would be named after Disney characters, because it would be fun to say, "I think we should run Mickey, but we may need to fork Donald to make it work in our environment".

Re: Disney Open Source

#35

Post by yazaddaruvala »

ncannon wrote: post #27
yazaddaruvala wrote: post #6

Just an FYI: Always be careful! I opened up a couple of these repos and some seem to have modifications on their licenses. Some like OpenEXR say "BSD" but don't actually have a license file. Others like, Ptex and Partio, have no mention of a license at all. Edit: For anyone wondering why this is an issue. From a legal standpoint, there is a huge difference between being able to read the code, and being able to use th…

All those you mention do have licenses. OpenEXR - https://github.com/openexr/openexr/blob/develop/OpenEXR/LICE... Ptex - http://ptex.us/documentation.html Partio - https://github.com/wdas/partio/blob/master/src/doc/license.t...

Cool, I'm glad, but still always be careful.

Meanwhile, I don't really have access to a lawyer and I'm curious:

1. Should I trust a license which is not distributed with the source code (i.e. on the hopefully official website)?

2. Should I trust a license which is in a sub-directory? My initial assumption is that, only that sub-directory is licensed.

Re: Disney Open Source

#36

Post by leggomylibro »

bmuon wrote: post #13
baccredited wrote: post #11

Steps: 1. Fire all the old programmers 2. Make them train their cheap H-1B visa replacements 3. Open source some code 4. Have a magical day! http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us/last-task-after-layoff-...

Did the NYTimes actually do any research for that piece? H1Bs are required to have a higher salary than average precisely to avoid that from happening

It's for their job title; Disney is happy to pay 150% of an Associate Junior Technician's $30k average salary compared to 100% of a Senior Systems Administrator's $150k.

That's hyperbole, but it's the same idea.

Re: Disney Open Source

#37

Post by s-phi-nl »

gkoberger wrote: post #22
alexkavon wrote: post #5

Can't wait for the Mickey Mouse repo in 2024.

Why? Disney has invested countless dollars into Mickey Mouse over the past 89 years. It's not like the Happy Birthday song, being hoarded without innovation purely for profit; they're actively expanding/investing/improving and making billions of people happy. Why should random companies get to legally print knockoff Mickey t-shirts just because enough time has passed?

Because that's what the US Constitution requires [1]:

"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries" (Emphasis added)

[1] https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/United_States...

Re: Disney Open Source

#38

Post by viraptor »

ncannon wrote: post #27
yazaddaruvala wrote: post #6

Just an FYI: Always be careful! I opened up a couple of these repos and some seem to have modifications on their licenses. Some like OpenEXR say "BSD" but don't actually have a license file. Others like, Ptex and Partio, have no mention of a license at all. Edit: For anyone wondering why this is an issue. From a legal standpoint, there is a huge difference between being able to read the code, and being able to use th…

All those you mention do have licenses. OpenEXR - https://github.com/openexr/openexr/blob/develop/OpenEXR/LICE... Ptex - http://ptex.us/documentation.html Partio - https://github.com/wdas/partio/blob/master/src/doc/license.t...

I don't think it changes yazaddaruvala's point. What happens when ptex website goes away and disney lawyers decide there was no proof?

Re: Disney Open Source

#39

Post by JustSomeNobody »

lima wrote: post #8

OpenSubdiv is a game changer in FOSS 3d software. Blender is already using it: https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Release_Notes/2.7... Demo: https://youtu.be/dzIl_S-qHIQ?t=115

Like the entire game has changed, rules, board, pieces and everything? Or like the game has been somewhat improved?

Re: Disney Open Source

#40

Post by ocdtrekkie »

revelation wrote: post #18
bmuon wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did the NYTimes actually do any research for that piece? H1Bs are required to have a higher salary than average precisely to avoid that from happening

More precisely even H1Bs are also required not to replace domestic workers, but somehow I must have missed seeing Disney execs being charged?

The trick is the H1Bs are not displacing American workers at the company they work at (the outsourcing company), the company is just expanding. Nor is Disney replacing it's workers with H1Bs, they're just outsourcing to another company.

And apparently, this loophole works, because a judge just dismissed the case.

http://www.thenewyorklawblog.com/2016/10/Disney-H1B-Visa-Law...

"The outsourcing companies successfully argued that the law did not apply to them because the plaintiffs who were displaced were not originally their employees."

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