There's another issues, both parties are courting the more extreme views within their parties. That is, the Democrats are looking further left/liberal, and the Republicans are looking more right/conservative. Neither is looking after the centre, they only seek to appease the more vocal within their ranks... the extremists. Typically when the pendulum swings things average out, but politicians have learned over the pa…
Not true.
Bernie was pretty far left and he got crushed by neo-con Hillary.
Castigating/firing people for their opinions is illegal under the constitution. Even if Thiel said the things Trump did, it's his right to free speech, and YC, as an employer, cannot fire him on any constitutional ground. Disclaimer - before HN goes on a witch hunt, I do find Trump repugnant. But I'll defend his constitutional right to say it.
> Castigating/firing people for their opinions is illegal under the constitution. Citation Needed. Edit: Here's a link on the front page of a google search for 'firing people for their opinions is illegal under the constitution' that refutes your claims. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/21/your-money/speaking-about-... A private company certainly can fire people for their articulated political views (edit: under the co…
"Activity outside work: Some states and localities prohibit employers for firing or disciplining employees for legal activities outside work. If you’re involved in a political campaign and you work in one of these states, you can’t be fired for your political activities as long as they are legal activities."
FLAGGING FOR POLITICAL CONTENT (not because Trump but because the Thiel NY Times story was so mercilessly flagged)
Some consistency would be nice. If it's OK for the boss to talk about this, then bring back the Thiel piece out of flagblivion. If this is a politics-free forum, then absolutely flag the boss.
Citation needed. I expect better for a top story on HN.
I'd also add that the US electing Clinton will show that corruption is now openly allowed in the US at the highest levels. That it simply doesn't matter. This sets a far more damaging precedent around the world than whatever it is people think Trump will do (like not starting a war).
> of course, if Peter said some of the things Trump says himself, he would no longer be part of Y Combinator). This is precisely where your whole argument fell apart. If money is speech (and SCOTUS tells us it is) and Thiel donates over $1 million to Trump's campaign, then he effectively is saying what Trump is saying. Money talks. In our society, it's almost always even louder than the calm reasoning of a rationalis…
I think that all you can assume with donations is that the statement is "I think that this is the best candidate" instead of "I endorse everything that this person says". I would then think that it is reasonable to not hold a donor responsible for everything that the person they donated to says
Ordinarily, I might be more inclined to agree with you, but (as even sama seems to recognize) this is far from an ordinary 'vote my issues' kind of election. This is a more holistic matter of core principles.
I already made this point today but Hillary Clinton, whom sama is endorsing, has directly contributed to starting two wars (in Syria and Libya). While Trump threatened to ban Muslims from entering the US, her actions have already led to thousands of Muslims being killed. Isn't that strictly worse?
Not allowing Muslim refugees in is another way of killing them.
> We should all feel a duty to try to understand the roughly > half of the country that thinks we are severely misguided. > I don’t understand how 43% of the country supports Trump. > But I’d like to find out, because we have to include > everyone in our path forward. If our best ideas are to > stop talking to or fire anyone who disagrees with us, > we’ll be facing this whole situation again in 2020. > > That kind of…
It's definitely not a popular position. Just take a look at Twitter and you'll see people from both sides nearly calling for the death of the other. While not super surprising I've seen little discussion around the fact that your chances of being fired for supporting one of the candidates (you can guess who) publicly are pretty good. Especially when you work in the tech field. Which to me is really interesting becaus…
Perhaps its a popular position with quiet adherents? "The level-headed majority."
Except Thiel is saying many of the repugnant things that made Trump popular. - Thiel is passionately against all forms of political correctness, just like Trump. - Thiel believes that the 19th amendment destroyed democracy, because women vote in favor for anti-libertarian welfare measures. When faced with the choice between saving democracy and capitalism, Thiel chooses capitalism. Trump shares this antidemocratic se…
Right, we aren't talking about Mitt Romney here. If this were the 2012 election I would be defending him, but this isn't some "standard" GOP candidate.
Funny how the "binders full of women" seems so tame today.