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.NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by Grishnakh »

scandox wrote: post #109
geostyx wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love that group policy! It will still force a restart about every 9 days with that enabled, but it's much better than daily restarts.

This seems a tad depressing...ever heard the Malcolm X quote: "If you stick a knife nine inches into my back and pull it out three inches, that is not progress"? And yes I am completely aware that Windows 10 updates are in no way comparable to the civil rights movement and I am in no way making any such comparison. I am just quoting a witty man.

I find it ridiculous that you feel the need to issue a disclaimer about a comparison between Malcolm X and Windows 10. It's a perfectly valid comparison, though obviously using hyperbole, and it's pathetic that you can't use a hyperbolic comparison like this without some stupid hipster bitching about it these days.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by ygra »

oogigogigok wrote: post #169

only me who find it amusing how windows devs are LOVING bash now, while most linux/mac devs who cares run zsh, fish or anything better than ... bash! cant wait to see the next gen of sloppy shell scripts, yay

Well, you're free to use zsh, fish, or anything better on WSL as well.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by WayneBro »

runjake wrote: post #180
WayneBro wrote: post #178

So, instead of taking 30 seconds to disable automatic Windows Updates, this person decided to have a hissy fit and throw the baby out with the bath water. The instructions are pretty simple. You have to toggle one setting. Done - http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8013-windows-update-autom...

This works well for the those rare people with the luxury over control of those settings in their workplace. I actually like the Automatic Update feature. I don't need to remember to run updates myself all the time. That said, I've been bitten by an hour-long unusable computer scenario and it's been a bummer, to say the least.

> ...rare people with the luxury over control of those settings in their workplace.

Would you kindly provide a citation for that statement?

I've been programming on Windows for twenty years in various corporations - never had a problem getting Admin rights on my own machine... I'm now a consultant and I visit many, many, many job sites - and I just don't see it being a problem.

Furthermore - Linux wouldn't solve the problem for those rare people who can't control their settings anyway. So, what's your point?

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by Grishnakh »

rbanffy wrote: post #65
PakG1 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe you and your parent are talking about different categories of users. >> but it's never going to be mainstream

My mom uses Ubuntu (but, in all fairness, I installed it for her)

My mom uses Windows. In all fairness, it was pre-installed by HP.

I don't know any non-technical consumers who installed Windows themselves in the last 15 years.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by Grishnakh »

mattchew wrote: post #127
scandox wrote: post #30

The real story here is the forced updates. How do people who are planning demos and presentations handle this? It's my worst nightmare.

This is indeed the worst. By itself it is enough to make me want to switch. It's not the only thing, though. Win 10 is a decent OS in most ways, but there are too many places where it does things that I don't want and I can't (easily?) change. I use Windows because I do C# development for a living. For now, it's not practical for me to switch, but maybe it will be in a few years. I'm hoping so. Really stupid to drive…

Since when do developers have much say in which OS they use? These things are decided by corporate policy and management in most places.

The best you can hope for here is that you can do the bulk of your C# development on a "rogue" Linux machine or VM, and then do some final testing and bug-fixing on Windows, since it's going to be deployed on Windows with customers (internal or external) who use Windows.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by alimbada »

WayneBro wrote: post #178

So, instead of taking 30 seconds to disable automatic Windows Updates, this person decided to have a hissy fit and throw the baby out with the bath water. The instructions are pretty simple. You have to toggle one setting. Done - http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8013-windows-update-autom...

The caveat being that this one setting is only availble for Pro and Enterprise editions of Windows 10.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by Grishnakh »

dotancohen wrote: post #71
aargh_aargh wrote: post #5

Can I have Paint.NET on Linux yet?

No. But honestly, spend a weekend learning Gimp. It's a pain, yes I know, but I'm really glad that I did. The official tutorials are wonderful. You'll be able to do so much more, and do it so much better, and even a bit quicker than you could in Paint.NET that you'll wind up preferring Gimp even in Windows. Just be sure to use single-window mode.

With dual monitors and the traditional GIMP non-MDI configuration, I can put the controls on one monitor, and the picture on the other monitor.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by tobz »

dsp1234 wrote: post #176
tobz wrote: post #153

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It seems like he was happy that he was developing on Linux, because Linux is not the happy case for .NET. By doing so, he discovered a bug he might not have otherwise discovered until he was running his project on a Linux environment.

Linux is the default environment for the official .net core docker images. You can see this on Microsoft's official docker page[0]. For non-linux builds, you have to specifically ask for the nanoserver images. ex: microsoft/dotnet:latest is a debian based image[1] microsoft/dotnet:core is a debian based image[2] [0] - https://hub.docker.com/r/microsoft/dotnet/ [1] - https://github.com/dotnet/dotnet-docker/blob/master…

Sure, for .NET Core, that sounds accurate. If you take the .NET ecosystem as a whole: the CLR, the tooling, the libraries, etc.. Windows is the happiest case. That's at least how I take his specific point.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

Tenhundfeld wrote: post #163
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The updates drove me away from Windows 10 years ago." This is amazing because Windows 10 is barely more than a year old!

Heh, I read it the same way you did, but I think the author's statement could be reworded like this: "10 years ago, the updates drove me away from Windows."

Heh, now that I look at it, you could definitely be right! Freaking English language. IMHO, the British can keep it.

Re: .NET on Linux – bye, Windows 10

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Post by king_magic »

WayneBro wrote: post #183
runjake wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This works well for the those rare people with the luxury over control of those settings in their workplace. I actually like the Automatic Update feature. I don't need to remember to run updates myself all the time. That said, I've been bitten by an hour-long unusable computer scenario and it's been a bummer, to say the least.

> ...rare people with the luxury over control of those settings in their workplace. Would you kindly provide a citation for that statement? I've been programming on Windows for twenty years in various corporations - never had a problem getting Admin rights on my own machine... I'm now a consultant and I visit many, many, many job sites - and I just don't see it being a problem. Furthermore - Linux wouldn't solve the…

It's a huge problem in more restricted environments - e.g., investment banks. Admin access can be very hard to come by.
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