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Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

#212

> Is the whole embassy shut down? Not likely. They're not just going to cut his Internet and then drone him the same day. They're hoping he comes out on his own. My guess is that if they decide to kill him they'd likely do it next Friday evening, on the bet that the deadman's switch has a 14-day timeout.

What in the world makes you think they'd kill Assange? That seems extreme.

How about Hillary Clinton literally saying "Can't we just drone this guy?" [1]

[1] https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/782906224937410562

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#213

- Is the whole embassy shut down? - Is there any direct reason for the timing (US elections, attack on Mosul or other current headlines)? - Was there any imminent release? (last week there was an announcement of a leak but it didn't materialize as far as I know) http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/4/13159914/wikileaks-hillary... - You'd assume that Wikileaks the organization will continue to work even without Assange hav…

They can't possibly isolate it to just Assange, so it must be the whole embassy.

My money is on this being an errant backhoe or similar, and Assange is just turning it into a big deal because he can.

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#215

From the bowels of 4Chan https://i.imgur.com/abcVS6q.jpg

Well, 12 hours have passed and no one is dead or imprisoned, so more 4chan lolz here it seems. No one in their right mind working for an intelligence agency would leak on such a public forum. The risk would be too great.

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#216

From the bowels of 4Chan https://i.imgur.com/abcVS6q.jpg

Difficult to imagine this being "influenced" by Clinton. It feels like it would be to Trump's significant advantage if this happens. It plays directly into his narrative.

Not necessarily. If she is fearful of very damaging leaks in the pipeline, Clinton would want to make sure that, at the very least, they don't come out through Wikileaks, which has a 100% track record of real leaks and can't be denied.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

#217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, she did want to drone Assange for his terrorist activities...

Is there any evidence that she said this?

There is, but like all of the other wikileaks 'scandals' there's nothing there when you actually look at the context. She said it as a joke, got the room to laugh, and moved on. Read the sources, there is really nothing to these leaks.

edit with tweet in question: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/782906224937410562

edit2: Notice the colorful language: she "openly inquired" instead of "joked". The laughter "died" when she "kept talking in a terse manner". It's all doublespeak.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

#218

> so what exactly will this accomplish… Many things! Instill a fear may be. Demonstrate their power to kill at will and their willingness to do so. Prevent outing of more truths about the Silicon Valley-Washington DC alliance. Meh. Let the downvotes begin… :)

Assange has a lot more enemies than the ones you choose to believe. Considering the Panama Papers were pretty much a long expose of Russian and Middle-East corruption, much moreso than the West, I suspect a lot of angry autocrats and dictators would like a piece of him too and they're not shy about war crimes or assassinating journalists. The leaks he's released target dozens of nations. He has a lot of enemies: http…

Yeah, because killing Assange would re-hide the documents. Brilliant.

I'm sure they wouldn't shed any tears but it's unlikely they'll try to draw more attention to themselves.

There's really only one group large enough to do what they want, damn the consequences.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

#219

- Is the whole embassy shut down? - Is there any direct reason for the timing (US elections, attack on Mosul or other current headlines)? - Was there any imminent release? (last week there was an announcement of a leak but it didn't materialize as far as I know) http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/4/13159914/wikileaks-hillary... - You'd assume that Wikileaks the organization will continue to work even without Assange hav…

Technical question: assuming no targeted malware, is it possible for an actor outside of the embassy network to cut internet access to Assange's devices while leaving the other devices in the network unaffected?

The ISP could do it in theory with filtering based on traffic patterns. The use of cryptography in the embassy plus where the normal traffic was going would determine how effective it was in terms of just hitting him.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

#220

> so what exactly will this accomplish… Many things! Instill a fear may be. Demonstrate their power to kill at will and their willingness to do so. Prevent outing of more truths about the Silicon Valley-Washington DC alliance. Meh. Let the downvotes begin… :)

As Archer would say: "Do you want terrorist groups? Because this is how you get terrorist groups." Or, another way, one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. What option are citizens left with when state collusion to deny people their basic rights occurs in broad daylight?

Which is exactly why I deplore the term "terrorist". The U.S. throws the term terrorist around with reckless abandon while proudly parading its strategy of "Shock and Awe"[1] and weapons like the "Daisy Cutter"[2] around on CNN. How are those two examples anything other than naked attempts to instill terror in it's enemies???

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_and_awe

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82

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