Vim for Humans

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Post by 0x54MUR41 » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 2:44 PM UTC

Vim for Humans
vimebook.com

Re: Vim for Humans

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Post by gshakir » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 3:05 PM UTC

The site seems down.

Re: Vim for Humans

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Post by gbrown_ » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 3:05 PM UTC

I've only skimmed this but there seems to be a focus on customizing and plugins from the get go. I think it's worth getting to know Vim "as is" before doing such things. Indeed there certainly some things that aren't the most useful or obvious but it's good to understand their original intent.

Not to crap on the author of this but I'd recommend Drew Neil's Practical Vim over this (and pretty much every other Vim book).

https://pragprog.com/book/dnvim/practical-vim

Re: Vim for Humans

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Post by AdmiralAsshat » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 3:07 PM UTC

2.1 For who?

If the author is reading this, proper English would be "For whom?" The intro says he's not a native speaker, so it's a common mistake. Easily fixed.

Re: Vim for Humans

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Post by exDM69 » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 3:10 PM UTC

gbrown_ wrote: post #3

I've only skimmed this but there seems to be a focus on customizing and plugins from the get go. I think it's worth getting to know Vim "as is" before doing such things. Indeed there certainly some things that aren't the most useful or obvious but it's good to understand their original intent. Not to crap on the author of this but I'd recommend Drew Neil's Practical Vim over this (and pretty much every other Vim book…

I kind of agree but vim's defaults are awful. Tim Pope has put together a good set of non-opinionated defaults which don't change key bindings or customize it otherwise [0]. I have a very similar vanilla setup with no plugins apart from syntax highlighting for some languages not included by default.

[0] https://github.com/tpope/vim-sensible

Re: Vim for Humans

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Post by rubbsdecvik » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 3:11 PM UTC

gbrown_ wrote: post #3

I've only skimmed this but there seems to be a focus on customizing and plugins from the get go. I think it's worth getting to know Vim "as is" before doing such things. Indeed there certainly some things that aren't the most useful or obvious but it's good to understand their original intent. Not to crap on the author of this but I'd recommend Drew Neil's Practical Vim over this (and pretty much every other Vim book…

I can't recommend this book enough. As a long-time Vim user, I still learned a few things after reading this book. Drew Neil is a pretty awesome person too.

Re: Vim for Humans

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Post by pheo » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 3:11 PM UTC

I think this site got slashdotted.

Re: Vim for Humans

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Post by dsr_ » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 3:12 PM UTC

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #4

2.1 For who? If the author is reading this, proper English would be "For whom?" The intro says he's not a native speaker, so it's a common mistake. Easily fixed.

In my experience, most native English speakers are easily confused about who vs whom, and avoid whom by rephrasing:

Who is this book for?

Re: Vim for Humans

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Post by xutopia » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 3:12 PM UTC

The SSL certificate for the site is marked as invalid in Google Chrome on the latest macOS.

Re: Vim for Humans

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Post by gravypod » Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 3:13 PM UTC

I wish I could use vim or emacs. I don't know if I'm stupid or something but all of the key bindings, everything you have to remember, it just doesn't make sense to me.

I wish there was something like nano + plugins. If I had that I could implement most of what I need (other then auto-completion for a crap load of languages).