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Fujifilm X-T2 review: for the love of photography

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Re: Fujifilm X-T2 review: for the love of photography

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Post by Jonnax »

desireco42 wrote: post #3

While definitely great camera, I don't think it compares favorably with Sony's offering. A6000 and A7 (II) series. Previous model of this Fujifilm camera also got raving reviews from Verge and was mocked in photography circles. The review, not the camera.

All I really want is a good replacement for my NEX-5. That should be a 2016 replacement for the a5100.

Compact and mirrorless APS-C is the main selling point really.

It does seem that Sony is targeting a whole another segment with the a6300 and a6500.

Re: Fujifilm X-T2 review: for the love of photography

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Post by elithrar »

colanderman wrote: post #8
rplst8 wrote: post #4

I up-voted this because I think the Fujifilm X series cameras need more love than they currently get. I have an X-E2 and I love it, but I'm very curious to see if they release an X-E3 and what features of the X-T2 and X-Pro2 it will incorporate. The whole X series is a pretty great system IMO. The designs are simple, bodies offer fully manual control, the lenses are extremely high quality, and certain models of lense…

Agreed, Fujifilm gets what many other manufacturers don't: that the camera needs to get out of the way of photography. Their recipe for this is to have great physical manual controls combined with great automatic settings. Fujifilm cameras don't beep and boop, they don't Instagramize your pictures, they don't have "fireworks over a snowy beach while your kids are chasing backlit dogs" mode. They just take pictures an…

> I have an (original) X100 and my only complaint is I wish it had more knobs and buttons

A little OT: I held onto my X100 until the X100T landed because a better physical interface was a big deal to me: better buttons, the Q menu, the better EVF - the X100T did a good job of delivering on these. Better sensor performance was almost a nice to have: cameras, esp. in 2015/2016, are so darned good for most use cases (short of shooting sports in the dark...) that the need to upgrade for raw IQ is pretty rare.

The X100T isn't perfect, but I find it to be the right compromise for me: fixed prime, doesn't need its own dedicated bag, lasts all day (with the way I shoot), and there's plenty of latitude in the RAW files.

The X-T2 (and X2 Pro, even) are great cameras, and the Fuji lens system is pretty fantastic, but it's nice that Fuji offers simple options too. Constraints are good for creativity :)

Re: Fujifilm X-T2 review: for the love of photography

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Post by maxxxxx »

dingaling wrote: post #9
maxxxxx wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with the A6000 series is the lack of lenses.

A lack? There's a huge and often price-insensitive market in decades-old manual-focus lenses for the Sony mirrorless cameras to the extent that I've given-up trying to find bargains and curiosities amongst 35mm lenses on eBay, and I've been in this hobby for nearly 30 years. The only untouched seam of treasure appears to be medium-format lenses ( Mamiya, Hasselblad, Pentax etc ) which are too big and bulky for the mi…

I know there are tons of old lenses on the market. For me the main reason to go with Fuji was that they have a 100-400mm lens for which Sony doesn't have an equivalent. Obviously this may change but as of now I find the Sony APS-C lens selection a little uninspiring. I thought about the A7ii though but I didn't like the handling.

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Post by Lio »

leephillips wrote: post #7

One thing I like very much about the Fuji X100T is the leaf shutter. I wish they had incorporated leaf shutters into the lenses of their interchangeable-lens models!

I agree, if you like clever flash photography it really is a game changer.

The only down side to the leaf shutter for me is that you loose rear curtain sync (as there is no curtain to sync with).

I was never really sure if there was an alternative way for Fujifilm to simulate the same effect on the X100 but given their wonderful commitment to updating firmware on even the old cameras, if they could do it I think they would have added it already.

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Post by hyperbovine »

samsnelling wrote: post #5
rplst8 wrote: post #4

I up-voted this because I think the Fujifilm X series cameras need more love than they currently get. I have an X-E2 and I love it, but I'm very curious to see if they release an X-E3 and what features of the X-T2 and X-Pro2 it will incorporate. The whole X series is a pretty great system IMO. The designs are simple, bodies offer fully manual control, the lenses are extremely high quality, and certain models of lense…

Up voted as well. I just purchased an a6500 after quite the back and forth with myself. Fuji actually uses Sony sensors. So the XPro2 / XT2 has the exact same sensor as a a6300 and a6500. So on paper, the Sony have a lot more going for them in terms of price to features. It should be really interesting to see what kind of pressure that puts on them. That's not to say that the Sony's are better cameras. Fuji has a gre…

I believe it is made by Toshiba. Google "HXM4-229393".

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Post by jotjotzzz8 »

I own and love the Fuji X100 (older version). Loved the pictures it took and brought it during many vacations. I also own the Sony A6000, and have used manual old lenses -- and the pictures I took with it are amazing as well. However, the last couple of vacations, I am now leaning more towards just using the phone I have at all times. My iPhone! I think this is the predicament of all SLRs. As smartphones improve their cameras, most will be transitioning to using those instead.

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Post by jscheel »

rplst8 wrote: post #4

I up-voted this because I think the Fujifilm X series cameras need more love than they currently get. I have an X-E2 and I love it, but I'm very curious to see if they release an X-E3 and what features of the X-T2 and X-Pro2 it will incorporate. The whole X series is a pretty great system IMO. The designs are simple, bodies offer fully manual control, the lenses are extremely high quality, and certain models of lense…

Agreed. I jumped on the X series train when the X-Pro1 first came out, and it's been an absolute joy to use. I've been especially appreciative of the firmware releases that continually improve their cameras.

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Post by imaginenore »

I'm a semi-pro photographer, do commercial work from time to time, get flown to shoot weddings across the globe.

$1600 is a ridiculous amount of money for this camera, considering the competition.

$1600-1700 buys you a used Sony A7s, the king of low light photography and video (if you don't count the new prototype from Canon), and it's full frame, unlike X-T2.

$1650 buys you a used Canon 5D mark III, which is also full frame, and is a great photo camera, which can also shoot RAW video with custom firmware.

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Post by rplst8 »

pizza234 wrote: post #10
samsnelling wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Up voted as well. I just purchased an a6500 after quite the back and forth with myself. Fuji actually uses Sony sensors. So the XPro2 / XT2 has the exact same sensor as a a6300 and a6500. So on paper, the Sony have a lot more going for them in terms of price to features. It should be really interesting to see what kind of pressure that puts on them. That's not to say that the Sony's are better cameras. Fuji has a gre…

> [...] the XPro2 / XT2 has the exact same sensor as a a6300 and a6500 Definitely not. Fuji X-Pro and X-T2 use the Fuji X-Trans III, while Sony a6300/a6500 uses a conventional Bayer array sensor.

Agree. The actual sensor itself may be the same substrate/silicon/CMOS whatever, but the color filter array, and processing are totally different.

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Post by coldtea »

desireco42 wrote: post #3

While definitely great camera, I don't think it compares favorably with Sony's offering. A6000 and A7 (II) series. Previous model of this Fujifilm camera also got raving reviews from Verge and was mocked in photography circles. The review, not the camera.

>Previous model of this Fujifilm camera also got raving reviews from Verge and was mocked in photography circles.

I've found "photography circles" to be ignorant pixel peepers, who wouldn't appreciate good ergonomics or know how to take an actual good picture even if their live depended on it.

(Have worked, among other odd jobs, as a freelance human interest/travel photographer back in the day).

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