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Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by maxerickson »

alva wrote: post #116
maxerickson wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just company reps, the US government issued a statement to the effect: https://www.dhs.gov/node/23199

Read the statement very carefully. At no point do they actually say, or directly suggest that Russia is behind the Podesta and DNC leaks. The media and some politicians are full force memeing this, saying USG blames Russia for the hack and leaks. The statement does not say this in the slightest.

We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

Those aren't really weasel words.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by dragonwriter »

mbreedlove wrote: post #42
varjag wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or there's no insurance files and Assange is bluffing. He won't sit on some scoop harming the United States for long, his ego and power trip would force his hand.

The insurance files are public. They just have to release the keys. 3.6GB - http://wlstorage.net/torrent/wlinsurance-20130815-A.aes256.t... 49GB - http://wlstorage.net/torrent/wlinsurance-20130815-B.aes256.t... 349GB - http://wlstorage.net/torrent/wlinsurance-20130815-C.aes256.t... 94GB - https://file.wikileaks.org/torrent/2016-06-03_insurance.aes2... I don't know why they would put out a few hundred gigabytes of fak…

> I don't know why they would put out a few hundred gigabytes of fake files.

The same reason a stick-up man might put their hand in their pocket to mimic the shape of a gun. If you have no weapon, it's still often useful to make people think you have one.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by NotSammyHagar »

AvenueIngres wrote: post #8
Pilfer wrote: post #3

Rodger Stone (who may have back-channel communications with Wikileaks staff [0]) shared two tweets suggesting that this might be US backed action. Note these tweets are still unconfirmed. At time of writing I have not yet seen this information corroborated elsewhere. 1) "John Kerry has threatened the Ecuadorian President with "grave consequences for Equador" if Assange is not silenced @StoneColdTruth" [1] 2) "Reports…

> that this might be US backed action I doubt the USG is involved in this. They have a pretty solid track record of both respecting human rights and due process. Keep in mind the US government is the most ethical government in the world. Assange, on the other hand, is a rapist and a Russian puppet trying to hijack the US election. He probably is a Trump supporter in disguise and a closeted systemd committer. If that…

SystemD eh? No hope for him then.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by 2AF3 »

maxerickson wrote: post #109
cookiecaper wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no hard evidence that Russia is involved. Representatives of well-known internet security firms have stated that they believe the attack comes from the Russian government, but have nothing to provide other than their professional opinion (which is not based on specific data afaik). The Russia myth comes from everyone repeating each other and pretending like it's fact. I don't really think Americans think of…

It's not just company reps, the US government issued a statement to the effect: https://www.dhs.gov/node/23199

Democratic administration covers for crimes of democratic candidate by accusing Russia. News at 11.

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by jacquesm »

- Is the whole embassy shut down?

- Is there any direct reason for the timing (US elections, attack on Mosul or other current headlines)?

- Was there any imminent release? (last week there was an announcement of a leak but it didn't materialize as far as I know)

http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/4/13159914/wikileaks-hillary...

- You'd assume that Wikileaks the organization will continue to work even without Assange having internet access so what exactly will this accomplish other than lending support to Assange's stated reasons for hiding in an embassy to begin with?

edit: another comment here suggests the reason may be because his extradition is imminent.

http://time.com/4532984/wikileaks-julian-assange-theories/

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by Nadya »

I had began archiving the /news and /newest because a lot of the Wikileak threads I was upvoting were disappearing into the ether. Seems they were getting mass-flagged/killed, this one survived. Also seems there has been discussion earlier today but the threads were mass-flagged off the front page.

Previously:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12722929 [208 points, 144 comments, buried]
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12724507 [50 points, marked as dupe]
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12724939 [23 points, buried]
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12724525 [7 points, marked as dupe, dead]
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12725175 [3 points, buried instantly]

Re: Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'

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Post by dexterdog »

rottyguy wrote: post #126

A bit of an interesting dilemma in the spirit of transparency. Given an N-way race, do you just reveal secrets pertaining to one participant (since this may be all you have) or do you with-hold until you can reveal secrets from all participants?

What choice do you have? You can only release what you have and you have no way of knowing what you don't have. He's not trying to reveal all of the facts in the world. He's trying to reveal the facts that he has.

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Post by staticelf »

From a Swedish perspective the Julian Assange case is particular close to the heart since it really shows how corrupt even our courts and politicians are. Sweden is rated as one of the countries with the lowest corruption but still 6 years have passed without even interviewing him for the pathetic accusations.

The entire case is a joke and whatever the US-election result is, it's bad for the entire world since our corrupt politicians will do whatever American corrupt politicians say.

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