Feds Walk into a Building and Demand Everyone's Fingerprints to Open Phones
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Re: Feds Walk into a Building and Demand Everyone's Fingerprints to Open Phones
#2Just another reason to forgo the convenience of biometrics in favor of a password/phrase that exists only in your mind. At least for now, that's something you can't be compelled to produce.
Really though, this descent into a police state is such a pathetic outcome for this country. Dangerous, scary, and tragic, but also... pathetic. This is what happens when a sizeable majority don't even participate in the electoral process, and those who do are overwhelmingly mindless.
Re: Feds Walk into a Building and Demand Everyone's Fingerprints to Open Phones
#3Just another reason to forgo the convenience of biometrics in favor of a password/phrase that exists only in your mind. At least for now, that's something you can't be compelled to produce. Really though, this descent into a police state is such a pathetic outcome for this country. Dangerous, scary, and tragic, but also... pathetic. This is what happens when a sizeable majority don't even participate in the electoral…
Reading this from the Forbes article: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3143273/Mass-Fing...
Relevant bits start at page 5 (III - LEGAL DISCUSSION).
Compelling a person to provide his or her fingerprint does not
implicate, let alone violate, the Fifth Amendment. "[B]oth
federal and state courts have usually held that [the Fifth
Amendment] offers no protection against compulsion to submit
to fingerprinting."
Schmerber v. California, 384 U.S. 757, 764 (1966).
That is so because the Fifth Amenmendment privilege against self-
incrimination only prevents the use against an accused of
testimonial or communicative evidence obtained from him.
Re: Feds Walk into a Building and Demand Everyone's Fingerprints to Open Phones
#4Not a fan of solely using fingerprints for authentication. Good systems allow you to rotate keys. I only got 10 fingerprints.
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#5Re: Feds Walk into a Building and Demand Everyone's Fingerprints to Open Phones
#6Not a fan of solely using fingerprints for authentication. Good systems allow you to rotate keys. I only got 10 fingerprints.
And you might not have any, once an adversary is done with you.
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#7Just another reason to forgo the convenience of biometrics in favor of a password/phrase that exists only in your mind. At least for now, that's something you can't be compelled to produce. Really though, this descent into a police state is such a pathetic outcome for this country. Dangerous, scary, and tragic, but also... pathetic. This is what happens when a sizeable majority don't even participate in the electoral…
A sizable majority would go along with this, because they haven't been come for yet, as the saying goes.
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#8Not a fan of solely using fingerprints for authentication. Good systems allow you to rotate keys. I only got 10 fingerprints.
Good passkeys also should only exist to be checked on the device. Fingerprints can be in databases and on the device itself. Not sure how fingerprint scanners react to replicated fingerprints, but the right people can probably replicate them pretty well. I would only consider a fingerprint a more secure authentication measure because it can't be recorded by cameras.
Re: Feds Walk into a Building and Demand Everyone's Fingerprints to Open Phones
#9Just another reason to forgo the convenience of biometrics in favor of a password/phrase that exists only in your mind. At least for now, that's something you can't be compelled to produce. Really though, this descent into a police state is such a pathetic outcome for this country. Dangerous, scary, and tragic, but also... pathetic. This is what happens when a sizeable majority don't even participate in the electoral…
Reading this from the Forbes article: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3143273/Mass-Fing... Relevant bits start at page 5 (III - LEGAL DISCUSSION). Compelling a person to provide his or her fingerprint does not implicate, let alone violate, the Fifth Amendment. "[B]oth federal and state courts have usually held that [the Fifth Amendment] offers no protection against compulsion to submit to fingerprinting."…
yet this law was made for identification purposes, not unlocking safes.
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#10This is why my unlock is not tied to biometrics. Once I realized the government can compel you to unlock your phone without a warrant using your fingerprint it became a much less compelling feature. The same for facial recognition.