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Netflix hammers cross-border watchers and there may be no way out

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Re: Netflix hammers cross-border watchers and there may be no way out

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Any ideas on what technical means Netflix is using to tip the scales in their favor?

Perhaps even looking at credit card billing addresses or issuing banks maybe, if they're non US based and service is being accessed by a US IP address could raise a flag?

Just my speculation.

Re: Netflix hammers cross-border watchers and there may be no way out

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Netflix has been messing with settings in their system that are breaking the experience for users in the middle of the US too. For the last two weekends I've been getting strange experiences accessing their site from my house. My PC works fine and can access content. My cell phone, connected to the same home wireless randomly gets messages "You are using a proxy and cannot access this content". Testing both units on…

It's probably not Netflix's fault though. I'd wager it's the media companies who own the rights to the movies.

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My solution to this was to pay a friend in the states to share his residential connection. I'd like to see them try and block Comcast's residential blocks. There's potential here for a middleman to write software/develop hardware that can share residential connections whilst filtering destination IPs (e.g. allowing AWS addresses) to try and minimize the potential for abuse with the goal of discouraging traffic other…

This won't work longer term if you also watch shows from your home region. A former Netflix engineer and I were talking about enforcing this sort of thing and people who "hop regions" always watch shows from different regions at different times. That flags your account, and your "home region" is known from your billing address and the "other" regions will get locked out. From what I understood they were still working…

Huh? If you have US billing, you can only watch the US catalog, and you need a US IP, right?

But that's fine with the OP, that's why he is using his friends broadband anyway. The US catalog is what you want.

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Their data scientists will now be building features like "tried to watch a movie from a VPN IP" for their churn models.

And another note: there are also people who simply do not allow comcast to filter their traffic and therefore always have a VPN. These people despite their efforts to watch netflix content approved for their own country, would be blocked.

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Where are the democrats and Hillary Clinton Fighting for the right of Undocumented Netflixers? Oh wait, the cross boarder netflixers can't vote so HRC doesn't care. WAKE UP SJW's

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Re: Netflix hammers cross-border watchers and there may be no way out

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I doubt anyone on HN would pay for a service like UFlix when the DIY alternative is much more efficient. For less cost we use our own US-based vps, running something like the shadowsocks proxy. It's the same rig we found to work the best in China against the great firewall. With its own dedicated IP, it would likely be cost-inefficient for Netflix to detect without blocking an entire range of legitimate IP addresses.

Tried that... I think by now, Netflix has banned pretty much all VPS providers, most likely as all the unblocking sites went from one to another

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So they are blocking by blacklisting foreign ISPs? What happens in tor network?

Netflix is available worldwide, but content is different in each country. They're blocking vps providers.

You mentioned TORONTO. two problems : you don't know which country the exit node will be in, and the speed is horrible

Re: Netflix hammers cross-border watchers and there may be no way out

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This won't work longer term if you also watch shows from your home region. A former Netflix engineer and I were talking about enforcing this sort of thing and people who "hop regions" always watch shows from different regions at different times. That flags your account, and your "home region" is known from your billing address and the "other" regions will get locked out. From what I understood they were still working…

Huh? If you have US billing, you can only watch the US catalog, and you need a US IP, right? But that's fine with the OP, that's why he is using his friends broadband anyway. The US catalog is what you want.

I imagine he would want to use his friends account too.
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